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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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 Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: British: Ever registered a child at the Embassy ? |
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Hi,
We are expecting soon, and I was wondering if anyone had ever registered a child (Korean mom, British dad).
Is it relatively straight forward, I found details on the embassy site.
How do you go about airline travel with a 5 month old?
Do you need a special passport or something?
Thanks
Ken |
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thebomb
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to watch this post closely, cos I also am interested in this info.
Nobbyken, sorry I don't have any info for you, and congrats on the upcoming sprog.  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: British: Ever registered a child at the Embassy ? |
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| nobbyken wrote: |
Hi,
We are expecting soon, and I was wondering if anyone had ever registered a child (Korean mom, British dad).
Is it relatively straight forward, I found details on the embassy site.
How do you go about airline travel with a 5 month old?
Do you need a special passport or something?
Thanks
Ken |
I can't specifically answer your question about registering your new baby at the BRITISH embassy BUT I can give you some insight into the rest of the stuff.
Your newborn will have dual citizenship until it reaches the age of majority.
Make sure you register and get the UK passport for your baby AS WELL AS it's Korean one. It will make travelling a lot easier.
When you leave here, present the Korean passport. Out you go. Travelling with an infant is cheap and easy. Airlines provide (as long as they have more than 24 hours notice) a baby basket that hangs on the bulkhead for the baby to sleep in as well as a special baby pack with diapers, toys, baby food, wet wipes, etc. Fares for infants (under 2) are usually only about 10% of the regular ticket (plus tax).
You are allowed an EXTRA carry-on bag for the baby as well as a smaller checked back AND a stroller (checked at the door and picked up at the aircraft door).
When you enter the UK, use the baby's UK passport. When you return to Korea, use the Korean one. No need for visas, entry /re-entry permits, etc. When you travel to other countries, use the passport that is the most advantageous in terms of visa waiver and length of stay.
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I'm not British; however, I'm a bit of a passport/visa requirements geek (it was part of my job in the US Navy).
From Death, Births and Marriages Overseas British Embassy, Seoul:
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BIRTH REGISTRATION PROCEDURES FOR BRITISH NATIONALS
British nationals are able to register their child's birth at the British Embassy.
The following original documents are required to register the birth;
1. Application form (DOC, 42.0K)
2. Parent's evidence of British nationality
a. When one or both of the parents hold a British citizen passport and were born in the UK, a passport is acceptable as evidence of nationality.
b. If one or both of the British passport holders were born outside the UK, a birth certificate is required.
3. Parent's marriage certificate
4. Child's local birth certificate
(e.g. hospital birth certificate in English)
5. Fee. The cost of registration and supplying a certified copy of the birth record are payable in Korean Won only. Details of the current fees are ;
Please click here for consular fees.
Further documentary evidence may be requested to substantiate a claim to British citizenship.
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There is a time limit for non-Korean born children to be notified to Korean Immigration Department. Please consult the Korean Ministry of Justice for further information. |
You can request the hospital administration to provide you with a letter attesting to the child's birth. That letter will include your name, your spouse's name, and the child's name and date, time, and place of birth.
From the same site linked above, I've copied just the FAQs pertaining to births:
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BIRTH / DEATH FAQs
Q: How do I register a birth that has taken place overseas?
A: The Consulate will need to see certain documents to prove the nationality of the child, including the following: the child's local birth certificate, full birth certificates for both parents or other evidence of British nationality; parent's marriage certificate, British passport of either the child's father or mother.
Q: Do I have to register the birth at the Embassy?
A: There is no obligation for the birth of a British national overseas to be registered at the Consulate. But it can be useful to have a British form of birth certificate and for the birth to be recorded at the General Register Office in the UK. |
At the same time as you're reporting the child's birth to the British Embassy, you will also be applying for a passport.
Here is the information regarding passports. Be sure to use Form C2 as your child will obviously be under the age of 16.
Unless it's absolutely required by the Korean government, I would give serious consideration to not registering the child in any way whatsoever on the Korean family register. While the current law forbids non-Asian and part non-Asian Korean citizens from serving in the Korean Armed Forces, that law could change. Another nifty law prohibits abandoning Korean citizenship before completing mandatory national service.
I really don't know if the Korean nationality thing for a child born of one non-Korean citizen and one Korean citizen is voluntary or mandatory. I suggest you check with the Consular Services section of your embassy about that.
By the way....
CONGRATULATIONS! |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much guys.
Arrival due any day now, probably before Monday! |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Simple. Get a form, photos, pay some money, either take it to the embassy or send them on.
You get the passport in a couple of weeks.
Cost ���� though. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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No problem. Glad I could help a tad!
I'll see what I can find out about the Korean citizenship being a requirement or not and post back in this thread when I do.
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
No problem. Glad I could help a tad!
I'll see what I can find out about the Korean citizenship being a requirement or not and post back in this thread when I do.
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It is NOT required BUT if the child is NOT registered in Korea as a Korean citizen then it MUST be registered as a foreign national at immigration and have it's F3 status, re-entry permit and ARC taken care of BEFORE it is 30 days old. (This will require proof of the foreign birth registration AND foreign passport application).
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Once your child is born, and if the child remains in Korea for more than 30 days, you should register the birth with the local immigration office within 30 days of his/her birth. To do so, you will need to provide the child's foreign passport. Failure to register the child would result in a penalty fine by the Korean Immigration authorities (*100k per month late).
If your child is a dual national, born from a Korean parent and a foreign parent, he/she shall also be recognized as a Korean national according to the Korean Nationality Act (I don't have the web link - sorry) which is based on the Law of Blood. For more information, you may refer to the website of the Korean Ministry of Justice at: http://www.moj.go.kr/immi/08_english/02_business/service_03_f.html.
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| It is NOT required BUT if the child is NOT registered in Korea as a Korean citizen then it MUST be registered as a foreign national at immigration and have it's F3 status, re-entry permit and ARC taken care of BEFORE it is 30 days old. (This will require proof of the foreign birth registration AND foreign passport application). |
Thanks. Of course it's up to the parents; however, if it were my child, I'd rather go through all of that than have the child be subject to mandatory Korean military service and other assorted obligations. |
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thebomb
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="CentralCali"]
Unless it's absolutely required by the Korean government, I would give serious consideration to not registering the child in any way whatsoever on the Korean family register. While the current law forbids non-Asian and part non-Asian Korean citizens from serving in the Korean Armed Forces, that law could change. Another nifty law prohibits abandoning Korean citizenship before completing mandatory national service.quote]
I was under the assumption that if one is holding dual-citizenship, when he/she becomes "of age", 19 i think, then they must choose which citizenship they which to keep. Thus if the child chooses British citizenship then no miltary service is required but they must file for a visa.
This is what I believe to be true, but it's not concrete, it's also Friday and I can't be arsed to do any searching.
Good luck with the weekend, soon-to-be Dad. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="thebomb"]
| CentralCali wrote: |
Unless it's absolutely required by the Korean government, I would give serious consideration to not registering the child in any way whatsoever on the Korean family register. While the current law forbids non-Asian and part non-Asian Korean citizens from serving in the Korean Armed Forces, that law could change. Another nifty law prohibits abandoning Korean citizenship before completing mandatory national service.quote]
I was under the assumption that if one is holding dual-citizenship, when he/she becomes "of age", 19 i think, then they must choose which citizenship they which to keep. Thus if the child chooses British citizenship then no miltary service is required but they must file for a visa.
This is what I believe to be true, but it's not concrete, it's also Friday and I can't be arsed to do any searching.
Good luck with the weekend, soon-to-be Dad. |
You are correct that a NATURALLY BORN dual citizen can / MUST choose which one they want WHEN they reach the age of majority and BEFORE their 19th birthday.
It is DIFFERENT for Koreans who become NATURALIZED citizens of another country to avoid military service. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
Simple. Get a form, photos, pay some money, either take it to the embassy or send them on.
You get the passport in a couple of weeks.
Cost ���� though. |
Not having to visit the Embassy sounds good (long drive).
I suppose it's OK to post money (175k) in an insured envelope? |
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