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Hwe and Soju with boss and co-workers... I dont wanna go!
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shetan



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: In front of my PC.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Hwe and Soju with boss and co-workers... I dont wanna go! Reply with quote

feels like.. lots old guys who dont want to go home to their wives... so get drunk and flirting with the young Korean office girls..

I cant understand what they are saying cause speak to fast and dont really like strange raw fishy/alien looking stuff...

also dont like being force fed copius amounts of Soju on Wed night.

Do I have to go??? Or will there be long term repercussions???

CanI go 1 hour and then take off with some lame excuse about being sick or something???
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can try leaving early but they usually really like the waygook to stick around. It really, really isn't a good idea to miss these things too often if you want to feel any jeong and be part of any sense of uri around the office.
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shetan



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it kind of annoy's me that they say your boss and co workers are like 1 big happy family...

dont worry about the contract etc etc...

ahh.. ok then... so can I take a sick day off?? ...No.

can I extend my contract 1 more year?? ... No.

why not??

I dont know... just cant...we have 2 year hiring policy and thats it.

so in Korea they say to their kids... well you have studied 2 years at uni so get the F**k out of home now...???
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's just the soju part, be firm, but they will understand. You can also toast and then pour it into the soup bowl. Watch what some of the younger Korean men are doing. They don't want to be there any more than you, and see what they do to get out of it.
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shetan wrote:
it kind of annoy's me that they say your boss and co workers are like 1 big happy family...

dont worry about the contract etc etc...

ahh.. ok then... so can I take a sick day off?? ...No.

can I extend my contract 1 more year?? ... No.

why not??

I dont know... just cant...we have 2 year hiring policy and thats it.

so in Korea they say to their kids... well you have studied 2 years at uni so get the F**k out of home now...???


Don't go to these things then. If jeong and uriness have a two year expiration date, what's the point?
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unknown9398



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Location: Yeongcheon, S. Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's how to handle the soju. In a casual drinking situation, such as during dinner, just do as the Koreans do who don't want to drink. Lift the glass during the toast, put it to your lips, pretend to drink, and put the glass back down.

Now if you're stuck with the last group of hard drinkers who are drinking shots and blowing air though their teeth, drink one or two and then beg off. If they know you're not a big drinker, they'll understand. But leaving early could earn you a few social demerits.
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atomic42



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm confused why you wouldn't go. My boss banged on my door at 9:00 last Wednesday night and demanded we go for hoe. I agreed, we polished off the amazing dinner and about 4 bottles of soju and had a great time.

Live a little, it won't hurt.
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mack4289



Joined: 06 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been along on these things before and they're good fun (at least with the people I work with). We don't have to work til 2pm though, it could be harsh if you have to work early.

But when I had plans and couldn't go, I told them that. Maybe it bothered them, but you have to ask yourself if you really give a sh*t. I could care less if people around the office like me or not. They seem nice but I'm not friends with them and never see them outside work. If you feel the same, tell them you have plans.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The raw fish you can't taste they dip it in this red pepper paste that completly overpowers the subtle flavour of the fresh fish.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up to you. You're an adult. If you feel the need to be pressured into drinking alcohol you don't want to drink - and eat food you're not especially comfortable eating - to develop juri and unriness with your boss - go for it.

But, as other posters have alluded to: this is a game in Korea. And it's really a game for Koreans. They have a long term (career) investment in showing respect and loyalty to their boss this way.

If you're a temporary contract worker (E2), then there's little value for you in this game - except getting drunk with the boys. I wouldn't expect your attendence to increase your salary or other working conditions.
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genezorm



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atomic42 wrote:
I guess I'm confused why you wouldn't go. My boss banged on my door at 9:00 last Wednesday night and demanded we go for hoe. I agreed, we polished off the amazing dinner and about 4 bottles of soju and had a great time.


What about the details of going for the hoes? Was that after dinner and soju?
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Develop a cough/stomachache/flu immediately. Tell them you went to the doctor and he gave you some medicine. You can come, but your medicine prevents you from drinking. And you ahve to go home early to rest. Problem solved.

I try to go to these things, even though they are no fun. I usually leave after the food has been eaten, but before the serious "socializing" begins. I'm a woman, so its easier to leave early than if you are a man. If you are a man, just tell them that you want to go home to see your wife/girlfriend. The Kwomen will think you are the sweetest thing ever. The Kmen will give you a hard time, but they know that waygooks marry for love, so they won't give you too hard of a time.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
The raw fish you can't taste they dip it in this red pepper paste that completly overpowers the subtle flavour of the fresh fish.


FWIW: Sashimi has long been incorporated into the English language.

Raw fish is fish that is going to be , but hasnt been cooked yet. Hwe is the KOREAN word for Sashimi. Chom - Chi is tuna sashimi.

Calling sashimi hwe when speaking English is like calling a mobile phone a hand phone.

We may be in Korea , but we still speak English.
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atomic42



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh?
We live in Korea and it's called 'hoe', not sashimi. Ever seen sashimi served with 42 banchan, glass noodles and sesame leaves? Thought not. That's because it's hoe and not sashimi.

I guess we should call soju 'sake' using your logic.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atomic42 wrote:
Huh?
We live in Korea and it's called 'hoe', not sashimi. Ever seen sashimi served with 42 banchan, glass noodles and sesame leaves? Thought not. That's because it's hoe and not sashimi.

I guess we should call soju 'sake' using your logic.


Was it uncooked fish?
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