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ajuma
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 Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Japanese students and pronunciation |
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I am currently teaching a class of 4 Japanese students and I'd like to work on pronunciation with them. I have a lot of experience with the mistakes Korean students make, but none with Japanese students. Could anyone give me some ideas of words/sentences/sounds that Japanese students have trouble with? Also, if you know of a good website that has some ideas, could you please post them here?
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normalcyispasse
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese students and pronunciation |
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| ajuma wrote: |
I am currently teaching a class of 4 Japanese students and I'd like to work on pronunciation with them. I have a lot of experience with the mistakes Korean students make, but none with Japanese students. Could anyone give me some ideas of words/sentences/sounds that Japanese students have trouble with? Also, if you know of a good website that has some ideas, could you please post them here?
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The Japanese syllabary has no distinction between R/L or H/F. Other than that, keep in mind that Japanese is generally very staccato -- Vowel/Consonant/Vowel/Consonant -- and so consonant blends are quite difficult. |
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ajuma
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese students and pronunciation |
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| normalcyispasse wrote: |
| ajuma wrote: |
I am currently teaching a class of 4 Japanese students and I'd like to work on pronunciation with them. I have a lot of experience with the mistakes Korean students make, but none with Japanese students. Could anyone give me some ideas of words/sentences/sounds that Japanese students have trouble with? Also, if you know of a good website that has some ideas, could you please post them here?
Thanks!! |
The Japanese syllabary has no distinction between R/L or H/F. Other than that, keep in mind that Japanese is generally very staccato -- Vowel/Consonant/Vowel/Consonant -- and so consonant blends are quite difficult. |
Does that mean that Japanese has the "p" sound? Any particular word problems come to mind? Which consonant blends? I know "sh" is a problem. Any others? |
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normalcyispasse
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese students and pronunciation |
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| ajuma wrote: |
Does that mean that Japanese has the "p" sound? Any particular word problems come to mind? Which consonant blends? I know "sh" is a problem. Any others? |
Yes, Japanese has a distinct P.
Really, almost any consonant pairs or blends will pose problems. The only non-paired consonant in the Japanese syllabary is the 'n' sound; every other consonant is paired with a vowel sound.
'sh' shouldn't be an issue, because they have a distinct 'shi' syllable and it can be mated to other vowel glides. You might have have trouble with the 'tu' sound, as there's a 'tsu' and you'd have to rely on another syllable and the 'yuu' glide to substitute.
Basically, the R/L and H/F sounds will be problematic. Other than that, whenever you have two consonants or complex consonants butting against each other you'll probably see issues.
For instance, my last name is Cox. The Japanese syllabary would show this as "Kokkusu." |
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Woden
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As aforesaid, a major problem for Japanese speakers is that they can't recreate the natural flow of English. This isn't always a major problem, but it is something you should work on.
A good thing to do would be to work on stressed and (more importantly) the unstressed syllables in English. The schwa is extremely important if a learner wants to speak natural English as it is the most common sound. Japanese have a lot of trouble with it. |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Japanese students and pronunciation |
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| normalcyispasse wrote: |
| ajuma wrote: |
I am currently teaching a class of 4 Japanese students and I'd like to work on pronunciation with them. I have a lot of experience with the mistakes Korean students make, but none with Japanese students. Could anyone give me some ideas of words/sentences/sounds that Japanese students have trouble with? Also, if you know of a good website that has some ideas, could you please post them here?
Thanks!! |
The Japanese syllabary has no distinction between R/L or H/F. Other than that, keep in mind that Japanese is generally very staccato -- Vowel/Consonant/Vowel/Consonant -- and so consonant blends are quite difficult. |
That's a HUGE problem!
They don't have the 'ng' and 'n' or any consonant endings on a syllable. Making consonant sounds at the end of syllables is a huge challenge for Japanese speakers. |
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normalcyispasse
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: for example |
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What holiday do Americans celebrate in November?
Sankusugibingu! |
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Hater Depot
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| They don't have the 'ng' and 'n' or any consonant endings on a syllable. Making consonant sounds at the end of syllables is a huge challenge for Japanese speakers. |
Closed consonants are not common but they do have n and ng. That's what ん and ン for. |
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little mixed girl
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practice the "uh"s with them.
like "what", "love", etc.
japanese is basically a, i, u, e, o.
other vowels are not there. "aw" (yawn, lawn, etc)
"sin" (consentration, listening, etc) |
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igotthisguitar
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