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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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 Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: Is EVERYONE Immigrating to the US? |
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This just in from Yahoo:
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| Nearly one in five people living in the United States speaks a language at home other than English, according to new Census data that illustrate the wide-ranging effects of immigration. The number of immigrants nationwide reached an all-time high of 37.5 million in 2006... |
You're just going to have to excuse Americans for speaking hyperbolically when we say EVERYONE wants to come to the US. We know it isn't literally true, and heave a sigh of relief that it isn't completely true. We do have standards and object to certain poste...er, people coming in.
If history is anything to go by, it will take about a century to fully absorb them into mainstream society. We are a more tolerant society now than we were in 1907, so maybe it will go faster, but I doubt it.
We have already seen the beginning of the nativist backlash, and it isn't all that significant yet. Time will tell if this state of things continues. I suspect it will.
The only aspect that bothers me is the level of education of so many. A hundred years ago, an education was much less important than it is today. I'd like to see all the subcultures adopt a more pro-education attitude--newcomers and all the old residents.
Since Bush came to power, I've been concerned that people around the world would stop wanting to come to the US. It obviously isn't true. The American Dream is still clearly alive for 37 million people, anyway.
Complete story here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/ap_on_go_ot/census_demographics |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Is EVERYONE Immigrating to the US? |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
If history is anything to go by, it will take about a century to fully absorb them into mainstream society. We are a more tolerant society now than we were in 1907, so maybe it will go faster, but I doubt it. |
Define "fully". I can't much tell the difference between a Korean kid with fully Korean parents who has been through 12 years of Canadian public education and your average white kid. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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It is a fuzzy term. I had in mind that 9/10's of Ireland moved to Boston in the 1840's but no one of Irish ancestry was elected president till 1960. Along the same line with the Italians.
I guess what I mean is when hardly anyone bothers to make a distinction anymore.
Let me try to clarify that: an immigrant group is fully accepted when the old group willingly shares power with the new group. Compare Al Smith's run for the presidency in 1920 and JFK's in 1960. The first time a Catholic ran, religion was an issue. Forty years later, it was a two day issue, mostly questions about whether religion would be an issue this time around. It wasn't. Catholics in general, Irish Catholics in particular, had been accepted. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: To Bolster the UK Argument |
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According to official UK government estimates, approximately 1,500
migrants arrived to live in the UK every day during 2005. The same
figures suggest that 185,000 more people immigrated into the UK than
emigrated to another country, yielding a net population gain of 500 per day.
The total for those arriving was lower than 2004's record, but continues a
trend of high levels of migration.
While the number arriving from Eastern Europea grew, the numbers of
people leaving the UK has also risen.
In total, 565,000 people arrived in the UK in 2005 saying they intended to
stay for at least a year. At the same time, 380,000 people left. More than
half of the 1,000 people a day who left the UK were British citizens.
http://www.workpermit.com/news/2006_11_21/uk/2-year_immigration_statistics.htm |
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