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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Problem students Reply with quote

Out of curiosity, what are your favorite methods of dealing with problem students? Assume you've no co-teacher and contacting parents is out of the question. What do you do?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- Go to the homeroom teacher. I can count on one hand how many times I've felt a need to do it in over two years at my school and it's worked every time.

- Plan better, more engaging lessons. This doesn't always work, of course, but it makes the likelihood of students being problematic much lower.
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unknown9398



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Location: Yeongcheon, S. Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarass them and they become docile very quickly. I know it sounds cruel, but it works like a charm.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make them sit outside the classroom for a while. It's very stressful because they never know who might walk by. Maybe nobody. Maybe one of the nicer Korean teachers. Maybe one of the Korean teachers with a big stick. Maybe the principal.
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Carlyles Ghost



Joined: 04 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, well organized, and accessible lessons do more to keep a classroom under control than anything I know. But, for days when that doesn't work, (and with apologies to Teddy) I speak loudly and carry a Big Stick.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unknown9398 wrote:
Embarass them and they become docile very quickly. I know it sounds cruel, but it works like a charm.


Trouble students are indeed often starved for attention, because their parents tend not have the time for it.

Just have patience and show you care.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oneofthesarahs wrote:
Make them sit outside the classroom for a while. It's very stressful because they never know who might walk by. Maybe nobody. Maybe one of the nicer Korean teachers. Maybe one of the Korean teachers with a big stick. Maybe the principal.


Actually making them kneel outside the classroom works even better.

But one thing that's really important to bear in mind is that the majority of problem students are experiencing some kind of family trouble. The longer I work at our medium-sized school the more I see this. I have one student who's been so up-and-down this year and this morning I almost lost it with her and was a breath away from making her go kneel in the corner holding her hands above her head. In the end I just made her move to an empty seat in the back, and then made her stay after class to finish the handout she didn't do one part of during my lesson. I could see that she just couldn't concentrate on it (unscrambling sentences) and when I asked her what's wrong she just said 'home'. She's one of the smartest students in the class and started off the term so well, being made class prefect. Last week she was really enthusiastict and smiled and bowed to me when I walked in. This week some other student was suddenly class prefect and she absolutely couldn't care less about anything I was doing or saying. I have no idea what happened in the past seven days but I'm 100% sure that (a) it had nothing to do with my lesson, (b) it's something that's completely out of my hands and (c) punishing her or getting her in crap with the k-teachers would be pretty pointless.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last grade 3 class today has a "learning disabled" student. He looks to be at least a year older than the rest (perhaps 2) and he is very large.

I had no co-teacher today...last week the home-room teacher kept him quiet, but this week he just kept standing up and blurting out Korean stuff in the middle of everything I tried to do.

I know he's learning disabled, so I know it's not his fault but I am not sure what I should do either.

So far, I've just tried to ignore inappropriate behavior, and while that may help me stay on track, I can tell it's not going to be an effective strategy in the long run.

Confused
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I have a student reading or speaking, and another student start talking or whispering or acting disruptive in anyway the activity is stopped.

The student stands. I write the word respect on the the board maybe underline it a few times. I ask the offending student "What is this word?".

The student responds "respect" if the student does not respond or if I can't hear the student, I will then ask the whole class "Class what is this word?". The class responds "Respect". Back to the offending student until I get the correct response.

On a second offense we work on what does it mean. the Correct and somewhat simplified response is "When some one speaks I will listen."

I haven't got to a third offense yet.

This was my very first lesson.

Along with an introduction with a picture show.

What are the rules in my class? There is only one rule in my class.

#1 Respect. "When someone speaks I will listen."

Sometimes I'm a little less subtle and simply shift the oration to the offending student.
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