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ontheway
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: The Military Supports Ron Paul |
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Ron Paul is raising more money from members of the military than any other candidate. Among all candidates, Ron Paul is number one with over 32% of the total. Among Republicans he is first with over 50% of the total. The amount so far is small, but the trend is significant.
Here's why ...
One military man's view ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzhzQ1eydV8
Fox news ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwZGRrqhfs
By the way, the analyst guesses, wrongly, that Ron Paul has used some libertarian mailing list. Actually, these were all unsolicited donations from the grassroots groundswell that is supporting Ron Paul and actually driving the campaign. They haven't done any fundraising mass mailings as of yet.
More analysis ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiIWt68Ghro
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Ontheway would it be fair to say that Ron Paul is the only candidate with the foreign policy views that he has?
Actually I really want Ron Paul to generate enough interest that he runs as a third party candidate. |
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ontheway
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Ron Paul has denied any interest in running as a third party candidate. Of course under certain circumstances, facts on the ground change and people can change their minds about political opportunities and choices. Give the groundswell in the grassroots, he could have a quarter of a million active campaigners and even more donors by election time, raise $100 million and win. This is where the current momentum and growth would lead. It would be hard to say no to support like that.
His chances within the Republican Party are still low, but growing. However, as a third party candidate, the the D's and R's both running pro war, interventionist, socialist candidates (which it must be if Ron Paul doesn't win the nomination), Ron's chances improve markedly as an independent or third party candidate. With the other two competing for the same votes, Ron Paul can appeal directly to the 70% of the public that opposes the war, and win.
If he does run in the general election, I will send him the maximum general election donation - $2300. I might go back and campaign full time as a volunteer as well. |
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: Re: The Military Supports Ron Paul |
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ontheway wrote: |
Ron Paul is raising more money from members of the military than any other candidate. |
Makes sense.
Here is a great quote by RON PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S4o_DDmuv0&mode=related&search=
He is quoting WOLFOWITZ who said that a major reason for going into Iraq was to get our troops out of Saudi Arabia, which were a MAJOR reason that Wolfowitz believed terrorists attacked WTC.
I love how Ron Paul quotes major Republicans to show how much more Republican he is than Republicans. I love it!
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Q: Would it be true to say that he is the only candidate with the foreign policy views that he does? |
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ontheway
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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In the primaries there are so many candidates that the media doesn't tell us about, that I couldn't say that he's the only one with the views that he has.
In the distant past I have found there were actually more than 100 candidates running, or attempting to run, in the New Hampshire primary for the D and R nominations. I haven't looked into that stat this time around, nor their various views. By the general election, he could be the only one. But usually there are 10 or 12 candidates who manage to overcome the hurdles to qualify for the ballot in one or more states. Who those people will be is still largely unknown at this time. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: |
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among the top 16 candidates
8 Republican and 8 Democratic |
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thepeel
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
among the top 16 candidates
8 Republican and 8 Democratic |
About 12 pygmy war thugs plus Paul, Obama and a couple others. |
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ontheway
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Among the 8 and 8 you refer to, Ron Paul's combination of views is unique. Many of his views are supported by one or more of the others, but the package in total is unique in that group. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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and the majority of the money went to candidates who had very different views. |
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thepeel
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
and the majority of the money went to candidates who had very different views. |
Well, does that mean that money is inherently intelligent?
Or, does it mean that wealthy people are going to protect their interests and keep in office a neo-socialist/corporatist who can be bought.
Say what you will about Paul and his politics. He can not be bought. |
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yawarakaijin
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Say what you will about Paul and his politics. He can not be bought |
Precisely why he won't win?  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: The Military Supports Ron Paul |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
ontheway wrote: |
Ron Paul is raising more money from members of the military than any other candidate. |
Makes sense.
Here is a great quote by RON PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S4o_DDmuv0&mode=related&search=
He is quoting WOLFOWITZ who said that a major reason for going into Iraq was to get our troops out of Saudi Arabia, which were a MAJOR reason that Wolfowitz believed terrorists attacked WTC.
I love how Ron Paul quotes major Republicans to show how much more Republican he is than Republicans. I love it! |
There is a difference between neccessary and sufficent. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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BJWD wrote: |
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
and the majority of the money went to candidates who had very different views. |
Well, does that mean that money is inherently intelligent?
Or, does it mean that wealthy people are going to protect their interests and keep in office a neo-socialist/corporatist who can be bought.
Say what you will about Paul and his politics. He can not be bought. |
I would rather have a corrupt candiate who new what was going on that an honest guy who doesn't understand the situation.
For the record they say that Osama Bin Laden can't be bought either. |
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thepeel
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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yawarakaijin wrote: |
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Say what you will about Paul and his politics. He can not be bought |
Precisely why he won't win?  |
Well, during the last debate while he was answering his questions the fox news panel was laughing at him. This, while they kept a straight face when the retards down the line spat their delusional fantasies about iraq. So, yeah. Those who have a strong interest in status quo will keep him out.
But if he can get into the presidential debates in a third party. He could alter the discourse. |
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