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Scott Ritter: �If you want to be anti-war, that means you have to be in conflict with those who are pro-war�

See the video.

[Kuros]

Does anti-war mean anti-Iraq war, or against all war on principle, or some third option?

[Gopher]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

The "anti war" movement is just anti war by the US they could care less about wars being waged against the US the by its enemies and in some cases they even support the enemies of the US.

[thepeel]

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Since no useful points have been raised so far beyond the usual ad hominem or straw man-type comments intended to dismiss a useful discussion, I shall begin.

Fighting fire with fire is a useful tactic in certain situations. While I am not familiar with the subject of the video, that is essentially what is being advocated, it seems. However, the form of that can be wide ranging. Does it have to mean, as assumed/implied by our resident anti-genius above, that progressives must start channeling Rove, Buish, Cheney and Rumsfeld? No. It does mean the degree of activism and the stringency of it must be raised. Progressives must challenge their elected reps and remove them from office if they do not respond. They should, if it is possible in any state, recall those who have voted to continue this war. Marches, strikes, protests must all become the norm, not the sparsely attended exception.

There is also room for reflection, quiet discourse and discussion, but that alone will get us nowhere. As I pointed out on another thread, nothing changed in Washington until after activists had spoken, not a little of which was driven by non-mainstream media an non-mainstream personalities.

To attempt to paint, as was done above, activist progressives as somehow attempting to dominate anything is pure rubbish. It takes all kinds, as the saying goes. Different strokes. Many fronts are needed on the war against the war. I applaud the activist running silent military-style demonstrations. I applaud the activist running for Congress because she believes her Senator has failed her. I applaud the filmmakers, the bloggers, the guy taking no shit from his C/N-C friends over a beer. They all have a place.

As do the apologists for the war criminals who have brought us this disaster: propaganda. just as the Vaunted Intellect above railed against protests of the Bush administration's many crimes as "antiAmerican" and claimed that no laws were being broken and no Constitutional infringements made all while claiming to be a Democrat, he now stands before us as a war "disliker." We are awed. The depth of his opposition unfathomable. At least to we mere mortals. Truly, it is remarkable that the first thing this Grand Dissenter does it attack the Anti-War protester, not the war. I must say, the Japanese must marvel at his cunning! The surprise attack! Attack the policy by attacking those protesting it. Again, awed.

When the same people who applaud, excuse and act as apologists for the current administration and its many criminals try to point the finger at those who finally decide it is time to fight fire with fire, one can only laugh at the absurdity of the words.

Let us see such pseudo-critics make a stand based on the truth that the war was sold by a pack of lies, intentionally told. Let us see them stand and say bring home the troops and end this nonsense. Let us see them ask that criminals be prosecuted, rights restored.

Until then, expect no true war critic to buy yet another heaping pile of bilious garbage pouring from either mouth.

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[Kuros]

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