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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: North West Airlines (NWA) Reply with quote

Hey all:

Anyone have any opinions of NWA? I'm looking at flights home for vacation and they're the cheapest by at least $200 US, but I've heard that their service isn't the best.

Any stories?

Cheers

KPRROK
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cmr



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say you heard right. They're cheap but, unfortunately, you get what you pay for.
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they'll get you home in one piece, but thats about it. I mean its not terrible, but its not like Cathay or anything. I'm always willing to go for a smaller blanket and pillow for $200 bucks though. I always fly NWA b/c it is so much cheaper.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWA agent error almost put me on the streets of Amsterdam once. The agent misprinted the validation date of my ticket when I bought it (it was a one year open, K-class, ticket), so when I went to check-in to a flight on which I had a seat reserved 10 months after my departure, they wouldn't let me board. They refused to confirm that there was an error on my ticket. They wanted me to buy a new ticket, but I had no money after being a student in France for 10 months which was exorbitantly costly. They would have preferred letting me be one of the many beggars at the Amsterdam train station than help me.

I contacted my travel agent who talked to NWA headquarters and sorted it out. I was informed that if I simply told the ticketing agent at the airport a confirmation number that I would be reconfirmed and allowed to board the plane. However, the ticketing manager refused to enter the code into her system and threatened to have me arrested by airport security if I didn't leave the desk. By this time I had already been on the phone home and to my travel agent for 4 hours and my plane was about to leave. I was forced to wait until there was a shift change and then went back to the ticketing desk where there was finally someone who would help me. They entered in the code and they printed me a ticket. The flight was to leave in 10 hours and they didn't want to give me a hotel after all the trouble I had been through. My travel agent ended up giving me her personal visa number to put me up.

I will never EVER fly NWA again, even if there are substantial savings involved and I am terribly inconvenienced by a different itinerary.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: North West Airlines (NWA) Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
Hey all:

Anyone have any opinions of NWA? I'm looking at flights home for vacation and they're the cheapest by at least $200 US, but I've heard that their service isn't the best.

Any stories?

Cheers

KPRROK


I can say with certainty that I will never, on pain of death, fly on either Air Canada or NWA again.

Reduced baggage allowances,
incredibly poor service at the terminal and on the aircraft,
really low quality meals and it is almost impossible to get a drink of soda, juice or coffee except when they roll the trolley down the isle.

Sorry, but on a 12 hour flight I expect more than 4 pissy little juice cups and 2 x 1/2 cups of coffee. Juice is only $2 per liter and soft drinks are 1/2 that. If you won't let me carry it on-baord you should supply me with it.

I expect my baggage to arrive at the same time I do.
I expect my baggage to arrive in the same shape it was when I checked it.
I expect my baggage to arrive in one piece and unopened.
They are the only airline I have ever flown that managed to lose a stroller between the cabin door and the cargo door.

These were NOT isolated incidents but a pattern of on-going low quality and poor customer service over many flights and many years.

Try to find a flight on someone like Singapore air or Cathay. Similar pricing and far superior service. Nicer cabins too.

Just my humble opinion.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just flew them roundtrip to Seattle in the last two weeks.

The good: Very polite and helpful ground service in Incheon, Narita, and Seattle, even when I was cranky in Seattle. The plane was good, with comfortable seats and in-seat entertainment system that beat KAL's Seoul-Chicago line. Surprisingly good food. A more spacious bathroom than I've seen on a plane for while. I suspect it really wasn't bigger, just better organized.

The bad: Going to Seattle, I was given the worst seat assignment you could get, D row - center center, with the control box for the entertainment system under the seat so I couldn't straighten my legs (I'm 6' 2"). (Good news, the polite help in Narita got me reassigned to a bulkhead window seat to Seattle.) Coming back, I was actually given no seat assignment because the flight was overbooked. It was good I got to the airport early because it made me first in line to get a seat when someone bit at the $750 offer to not fly. I got aisle seats all the way to Incheon.

In all, little to complain about, and a pleasant experience in general.

NB: Drinks will cost you $5 apiece, but if you're saving $200 on the flight, this is a small matter unless you plan to drink them dry.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've flown Northwest many times.. as they have a major hub in Detroit, Michigan.. (where I've flown in and out of many times in and out of Asia).

The airline is very mediocre compared to others.. but it gets you where you gotta go.. its not bad. its not good.. its just very very very mediocre and the price is alright.

(Northwest Airlines also has great summer fares from Incheon to Honolulu for 550,000 won every summer before June 29th.. and I'm hoping to do that for the 3rd summer in a row.. Cool )
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying NW? I am not sure how much it costed one way to Korea on NW as my recruiter bought the ticket. I flew NW 3 months ago on the flight mentioned above. I would guess it was less than $1000 US one way and not much more if round trip.

Is that fare mentioned above, RT or one-way?

Better bring something to eat. As for enough food to eat, your on a lean diet. As for enough water to drink, your outta luck as you cannot bring your own and they come around like only 3 times to offer a small glass of water during the whole 14 hour flight to Tokyo from Detroit. During the flight, I could not find a way to just buy or get drinks when I wanted one as I tried by getting up, walking around, and asking attendants hanging out in the galleys. I went some 10 hours between the 2 small meals and was very hungrey, thirsty, and bored while the sun remained at high noon in the sky the whole time. It was a very very cramped seat configuration on the 747, so cramped you could not use a laptop and barely could use a small DVD player on your dinner tray. You could not slip past the passenger next to you to get up out of your seat, you had to wake them up and make them get out of thier seat; no room. Was the same on United and American last year in the states too, but those were only 2 or 3 hour flights.

In the 1990's, I remember having much more room, could step around past seated people, had good food, and plenty of drinks on flights to Europe and around the states. In 1996, on NW Detroit to Frankfurt, in coach class, I had fillet mignon with wine and all the fixins which was delicious and filled me up. Used to be about the jetset experience or good service, now it's about getting there at minimal cost in the spirit of profiteering, nothing more. Since 2002, things got tough, unless you have big money and willing to spend it. At least we still get to fly places a little.

* Would be several times more cost if you opt for business class where you have enough room, food, water, and entertainment to not be so frazzled upon arrival. So for those of us not big in finance, just getting there in coach class will sufface.
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Endesu



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife works for NW here in Korea, and they do get a fair bit of angry passengers, yeah Smile .

From what she tells me, it doesn't sound like a company I could ever work for, or fly with for that matter. Luckily, we only pay taxes to fly business with them, so I tend to use them anyway;)
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pharflung



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, if the airline won't let you bring water on board, bring a watermelon.
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pharflung wrote:
Hey, if the airline won't let you bring water on board, bring a watermelon.


Because they love when you bring fresh fruit onto international flights.

Every airline seat has a flight attendant call button. Push it and one is usually there in a few minutes. They'll bring you your water. I found the staff to be rather friendly, although it seemed like they were really busy b/c maybe htere weren't enough attendants.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kat2 wrote:
pharflung wrote:
Hey, if the airline won't let you bring water on board, bring a watermelon.


Because they love when you bring fresh fruit onto international flights.

Every airline seat has a flight attendant call button. Push it and one is usually there in a few minutes. They'll bring you your water. I found the staff to be rather friendly, although it seemed like they were really busy b/c maybe htere weren't enough attendants.


I am fully aware of the call button and for some reason, on every NW flight I have been on there appeared to have been a policy to ignore the call light for as long as possible (even with multiple dings).

Even as a million mile flyer on Star Alliance I will NEVER fly on AC or NW and I do know the difference. The service on both of those airlines has always, in my mind, rated somewhere between sh1tty and just bad.

I haven't had a good flight on either since the late 80's and I refuse to fly them again.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fly with them every chance I get as they are the cheapest, usually.

Regarding those who complain about the small quantity of juice / water they provide...just ask for more. They always bring me what I ask for.

They ruined a peice of old luggage once and gave me a 400USD voucher.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I have many stories, good and bad, from over the years. Let's just say there were times when they were NorthBest and others when they were NorthWorst.
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oxfordstu



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Location: Bangkok

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northwest sucks donkey balls. I just flew with them over here. Never again. $5 a drink? WTF is that? I thought all international flights provide free booze, regardless of the origin. Fugly flight attendants, and a very small baggage allowance puts them on my blacklist.
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