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SweetLou



Joined: 26 Sep 2003
Location: mt. bu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: quit/fired from smoe Reply with quote

I have a friend who has recently re-signed with smoe for a second year, but he is considering getting out of the contract early. What happens to the first year bonus and pension if he resigns (as in quits, w/ notice) versus if he gets fired? Is he entitled to both either way?

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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't plan on renewing they give you a one way ticket. If you plan on renewing they give you a round trip ticket.
He owes money on the return flight. They will deduct that from his bonus.
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SweetLou



Joined: 26 Sep 2003
Location: mt. bu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smoe give tickets home to teachers who resign? What if they don't necessarily plan on leaving the country, just getting out of smoe? Is the cost of a one-way ticket still deducted from the bonus?
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet lou,

He's entitled to his severance - seeing he did finish his first contract. It will be prorated up until the end of his work period. He still must give thirty days notice. If he doesn't, there really is no impact other than they could get nasty and give him problems with his deposit (500,000 won) and apt. issues.

Pension - depends on his nationality, whether he will get it back. Tell him to check that.

Flight - he will receive no return ticket unless he finishes the new contract. Period. He'll have to arrange and pay for that. I think Fishsoup didn't note that the person in question had already done a year contract.

DD
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SweetLou



Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question -- it's a bit weird to be the go-between, but my buddy doesn't want his Dave's account tied to these posts.

Between contracts, SMOE allowed him to go home to visit family/friends on a free round-trip ticket as a condition of re-signing. Is there any financial liability for that ticket if 6 months on the new contract aren't completed?

RE: the pension, he's American.

Thanks for the help, everyone...
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SweetLou wrote:
Another question -- it's a bit weird to be the go-between, but my buddy doesn't want his Dave's account tied to these posts.

Between contracts, SMOE allowed him to go home to visit family/friends on a free round-trip ticket as a condition of re-signing. Is there any financial liability for that ticket if 6 months on the new contract aren't completed?

RE: the pension, he's American.

Thanks for the help, everyone...


After completing the one year contract he should get his plane ticket paid for to go back home, but as far as a RT ticket goes, he would have to complete at least 6 months in order to "work off" the fare from America to Korea.

Did he know that he was going to quit all along? I know that GEPIK and SMOE usually give 2 weeks of extra vacation if you decide to re-sign for another year, though I don't think there are any penalties other than paying for the plane ticket should you quit before the 6 month mark.
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SweetLou



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a round-trip fare, how do they usually calculate the price of a one-way leg? is there a stock amount they generally base it on, or would they just halve the cost of the round-trip ticket? since the trip home happens during peak season, that could get expensive it seems...
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweetlou,

There is no liability for the flight. That was due and compensation for the completion of his first year contract.

He won't be elgible for any flight unless he completes a full year. Then he will get a return ticket home (if not resigning.) that's all. As an American he will have to apply to get his pension money back.

If he completes 6 mo. this contract, he gets no flight home but will get severance up to that point. Or if 7 mo. up to that point, and so on.....

I hope this is clear enough. He should read his contract!!!!!!

DD
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something not quite right there ddeubel, & I doubt the smoe contract addresses the op's friend's issue. On completion of his one year, he was indeed entitled to his fare home. But what he got instead was a return ticket back to Korea upon re-signing on the understanding he was back for a 2nd year (not to mention 10 days paid leave). If he doesnt complete 6 more months, doesnt he logically forfeit half that return ticket?
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Something not quite right there ddeubel, & I doubt the smoe contract addresses the op's friend's issue. On completion of his one year, he was indeed entitled to his fare home. But what he got instead was a return ticket back to Korea upon re-signing on the understanding he was back for a 2nd year (not to mention 10 days paid leave). If he doesnt complete 6 more months, doesnt he logically forfeit half that return ticket?


My bad. I horribly worded what I wanted to say. Yes, he is liable for the return ticket (payment), if he doesn't complete 6 mo. There is a table to calculate and I wish they'd make this public. They don't. You might email [email protected] for info. to that effect. I'm sure they don't have anything at http://etis.sen.go.kr/

DD
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You get your flight back if you haven't already taken a flight and have received no money in lieu for that. If you've already taken a flight or gotten money in lieu of that (for your first year) then you have to find your own way back home.

You should already have your severence. If not, they should give it to you.

No money should be withheld. Deposits should come back to you if you have made any.

It sounds like you just re-signed and didn't take any flights home or money for that. If you give them 30-day's notice, you owe them sweet fk all.

I guess for every day under the 30 you're supposed to give them for notice you would owe your montly salary divided by 30 times the number of days you were under 30 for your proper notice.
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