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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Is it really that offensive? Reply with quote

I now have a TEFL course trainer from a university, which will go unnamed, very upset over my signature.

It says, "Sleeping with a Korean woman, and I'm not even TEFL Certified!"

I thought it was sort of funny. I was poking fun at the irony of how many Koreans tend to blame everything on foreigners, as well as the severe angst many Korean males have towards foreign males stealing their women.

The current problems in their educational system seem to be due to non-TEFL certified teachers teaching in the hagwons -- say nothing of Korean illegal degree holders who are really making the news.

I feel this TEFL course trainer's motivations are political.

What are your thoughts?


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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your motivation political?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you caught me in an edit above.

Are my motivations political? Not in the same way. I'm not selling TEFL courses or anything. I suppose you could say my motivations, if any, are to encourage the Korean gov't to offer a free, or next-to-free TEFL training course for incoming teachers.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he/she gets offended to easily.

I hate that. There are always people out there like that. I know someone who, upon hearing a comment I made a few months ago, thought me nothing more than a sexist pig. I still think there was nothing I've done that would make me out to be that kind of weasel, but in her eyes, I've sealed my tomb.

Even though no one prior to this person has ever thought of me as being sexist, and 99% of people would never extract the idea of me being sexist from that one slight of tongue--she did/does and will never let me live it down.

This other time I offended a friend of a friend halfway to death for saying the "f-word" once. She was a strong Xtian and gave me that "Jeebus would never say that" BS. So I promptly sang a song comprised of nothing but the "f-word". She almost started crying, I couldn't believe it. What is wrong with some people?

That being said, some people are just touchy. Ignore this person. I think your signature is fine.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe she does get offended easily. At first I thought, "Maybe her school has been trying to convince people that you need a TEFL certification to sleep with a Korean woman."

Then I realized that was crazy.

She's just an individual proud of her position as a TEFL instructor, and it pains her to see someone make light of that.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe she wants to sleep with you. Hurry up and get that TEFL boy!
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I'm sure she's a fine individual.

Besides, my wife would never allow it.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, she has convinced me to turn over a new leaf.

I'm changing my signature!
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Actually, she has convinced me to turn over a new leaf.

I'm changing my signature!


Tsk tsk tsk. Don't cave, you didn't do anything wrong in the first place.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it really that offensive? Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
It says, "Sleeping with a Korean woman, and I'm not even TEFL Certified!"


Quite witty Laughing

Where can i buy a t-shirt / bumper-sticker?

Humour doesn't always make everyone laugh.

Truth is often ironic.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It reminds me of what a lot of homophobes say about gays. "I don't really care what they do in their bedrooms but I hate it when they flaunt it in my face."

Public. Private.

Although I'm not sure what your Korean coworker was doing on this board. It seems like a safe enough place to have something like that. It's not like you said it to her face or waved it in front of her...is it?
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I thought it was funny.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
Even though no one prior to this person has ever thought of me as being sexist, and 99% of people would never extract the idea of me being sexist from that one slight of tongue--she did/does and will never let me live it down.

I've had the same experience with one person in uni. She got all offended that I used the word "chairman" instead of "chair" or "chairperson". First off, a chair is something you sit in. Secondly, I was referring to myself, which last time I looked I was a MAN. So what the F is wrong with calling MYSELF a chairman? That was my position. F her and her sensibilities.

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This other time I offended a friend of a friend halfway to death for saying the "f-word" once. She was a strong Xtian.

My office-mate is strong Xtian and gets offended at ANY profanity, and never fails to tell me so whenever I let one out (which is frequently, admittedly). F him too. Just because YOU are Xtian doesn't mean I have to change how I do and say things to fit YOUR lifestyle. What's next, getting offended when I have a beer? F him, too.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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my motivations, if any, are to encourage the Korean gov't to offer a free, or next-to-free TEFL training course for incoming teachers.


And you think posting a signature on Dave's is going to accomplish that?

Why not just go home for a few months and take the free TEFL training course YOUR government pays for?
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Pink Freud



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the signature was clever, and quite humorous.

Strange days. A few years ago I was having lunch with a group of colleagues. One didn't want to tip, reasoning that rest of us had left enough of a tip for our meals, so she didn't have to tip for hers.

"Don't be so niggardly!" I told her.

Shocked silence.

"What a thing to say!" she answered back. "How can you use that word?"

"What word?"

"The 'N' word."....

Even after I explained that I hadn't said what she thought I had said, she insisted that I should never use the word "niggard", because it SOUNDS LIKE "that other word", and most people "have never heard of it."

Despite the fact that the two terms aren't etymologically related, and that "niggard" predates, "that other word" by centuries, she stuck to to her linguistically challenged position.

I'm supposed to modify my speech so as not to offend someone's ignorance? WOW. People choose to get offended at the weirdest things.

Just in case, from the Mirriam-Webster online dictionary:

Main Entry: 1 nig�gard
Pronunciation: 'ni-g&rd
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse hn�ggr niggardly; akin to Old English hnEaw niggardly
: a meanly covetous and stingy person : MISER
- niggard adjective
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