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Would you rather have your students like you or respect you?
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If you can't have both equally, would you rather have your students like you more or respect you more?
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Respect you more
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aaabank



Joined: 27 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Would you rather have your students like you or respect you? Reply with quote

So, I teach at a high school and have been here ~1.5 years. I've slowly been coming to the realization that having the students 'like' you isn't a great thing for classroom management. They don't respect people that they like. I see other teachers here with sticks and I hear from the students that they are hit occasionally (typically on the hand) as a form of punishment. Although I don't condone this sort of punishment, I do see the results from it. The students will do what that teacher tells them to do. Period. There could be room for an argument about whether the long-term effects of this system are harmful to society but not in this post.
I have been instituting the "sit-down, stand up" form of physical punishment in my classroom. (I now teach at an boys high school and so other levels and girls schools would obviously use differing forms of punishment)

Overall, I am asking this: If you can't have both equally would you rather have your students like you more or respect you more? (Ignore the grammar problem with this sentence Grammar Cops)
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if they like you they'll still act like little shiats and do nothing constructive. If they respet you as a teacher they might work a bit.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both
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aaabank



Joined: 27 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
both


I think you may have watched a little too much 'Bugs Bunny' as a kid. Smarta$$. (I'll admit I do enjoy the sarcasm though)
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ODERINT DUM METUANT!!!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
both


I'll second this opinion.

You can be respected (without the use of physical force or intimidation) AND be liked as a teacher at the same time.
You can be a confidant and / or mentor.
Reward the effort and not just the successes.

You are NOT their friend or playmate.
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aaabank



Joined: 27 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
spliff wrote:
both


You are NOT their friend or playmate.



Good point. But I don't think Spliff was being that thoughtful.
I suppose what I should have asked was "would you rather be their friend or be respected by them?"
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
spliff wrote:
both


I'll second this opinion.

You can be respected (without the use of physical force or intimidation) AND be liked as a teacher at the same time.
You can be a confidant and / or mentor.
Reward the effort and not just the successes.

You are NOT their friend or playmate.


Good point that's the advice I offer newbies...ie. Your Ss are your Ss NOT your friends, period!
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaabank wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
spliff wrote:
both


You are NOT their friend or playmate.



"I don't think "


I agree!
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Respect any day of the week. The way these kids vasilate between like and dislike, who cares if they like you. Smile
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, it doesn't matter whether they respect or even like you: Many Ss don't like foreigners to begin with and quite a few don't understand the meaning of respect or don't even respect themselves. What IS important is that as a teacher you respect and engage your Ss w/ lessons that capture their attention, imagination and teach w/ the utmost of professionalism. I see too many teachers concentrating on co-opting their Ss rather than actually teaching them.

Last edited by spliff on Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:06 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I can't have both equally? Then definitely respect over like.

I only taught for 3 weeks, but I made sure to establish respect the minute I stepped into the classroom and I had zero problems with my kids acting out of line - granted, it was only 3 weeks. Send a clear message and they will respect you - it shouldn't matter whether they like you or not IF they respect you. You're not their friend, you're the teacher. My favorite teachers back in high school and college were the ones that I respected.
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadsac wrote:
Respect any day of the week. The way these kids vasilate between like and dislike, who cares if they like you. Smile


Do you think that they might respect you more if you could spell?


Also, there is no reason why you can't be both liked and respected if you like and respect your students. It's a two-way street.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly liked with enough respect to get the job done.

At a hogwon, to SOME degeree, yo are their playmate IMO.
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just like jail, take out the leader and you will earn the respect.
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