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For all you misogynists out there
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Which country has the most snobbish, self-centered women?
Australia
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Britain
6%
 6%  [ 5 ]
Canada
19%
 19%  [ 15 ]
France
8%
 8%  [ 7 ]
Germany
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Japan
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Korea
20%
 20%  [ 16 ]
New Zealand
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
United States
35%
 35%  [ 28 ]
Other
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 78

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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: For all you misogynists out there Reply with quote

There was a posting awhile back that misused the word "misogyny."

The correct definition of misogyny is "a hatred of women."

There probably aren't any real misogynists on this forum. But if you were, here's your chance to have your say.

I'm going on vacation now.
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ANother thread on misogyny? Yeah, should be real interesting.
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just voted for Canada. Putting Canada at 100%. Nobody else vote, the poll results are hilarious this way.

Joking aside, I think self-centeredness tends to cross genders in any country. I've found the Canucks I've met here to be extremly full of themselves, convinced they're the most educated, erudite, global people in the world, and that being ignorant of Canada is evidence of overall ignorance. Their main evidence for this is that they're more global and better educated than their big neocon neighbor to the South. Which may be true, but being smarter than the U.S. is about as prestigious as winning the special Olympics. Also, as a global player, Canada has not particularly called attention to itself in a way that would warrant everyone being knowledgable about it.

I'm from Wisconsin, by the way.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: For all you misogynists out there Reply with quote

flummuxt wrote:
There was a posting awhile back that misused the word "misogyny."

The correct definition of misogyny is "a hatred of women."

There probably aren't any real misogynists on this forum. But if you were, here's your chance to have your say.

I'm going on vacation now.


I'm think the mods did some cleaning recently. Thanks, Mods!!!

Nope, no misogynists on this board. No racists. No white-supremacists, child molesters, rapists, petty criminals, psychos, schizos, drunks, druggies, sex addicts, fetishists, rabid nationalists, etc. Been on this board since 2001, and all users are carefully screened and deemed certifiable.

Er, certifiably normal, I mean....
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

periwinkle wrote:

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I'm think the mods did some cleaning recently.


Were it only so.

To wit:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=95769&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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DRAMA OVERKILL



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
I just voted for Canada. Putting Canada at 100%. Nobody else vote, the poll results are hilarious this way.

Joking aside, I think self-centeredness tends to cross genders in any country. I've found the Canucks I've met here to be extremly full of themselves, convinced they're the most educated, erudite, global people in the world, and that being ignorant of Canada is evidence of overall ignorance. Their main evidence for this is that they're more global and better educated than their big neocon neighbor to the South. Which may be true, but being smarter than the U.S. is about as prestigious as winning the special Olympics. Also, as a global player, Canada has not particularly called attention to itself in a way that would warrant everyone being knowledgable about it.

I'm from Wisconsin, by the way.


That just sounds retarded. Bumpkin of a country being smarter than THE world super power... Hmmm... Not quite "special olympics"...
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody really hates women. Sometimes we love them the wrong way. Most of the time, we don't understand you for the exact reasons we don't understand ourselves. You gals don't always yourselves, either. Hopefully, we figure it out, later. Hopefully.

Okay, I take it back, there are a tiny minority who are simply sick. Haven't noticed many around here, though. If a guy has a different opinion than some particular woman, doesn't mean he hates all a ya, though.

Also, there's the guys who are just pullin' your chain. Please exclude them from the rest of us who simply disagree about one or two things. That's the way things really are. People disagree sometimes. Really. Disagreement does ot equal hate, though.
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="DRAMA OVERKILL"]
PeterDragon wrote:
That just sounds retarded. Bumpkin of a country being smarter than THE world super power... Hmmm... Not quite "special olympics"...


I guess I just don't see how being superpower requires intelligence. The people of South Korea, for example, are on average more educated and informed than the peopl of China, as are the people of Japan. China could still take both of them in a fight. A monkey is smarter than a crocodile. I could go on.
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demaratus



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Location: Searching for a heart of gold, and I'm gettin' old

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
I just voted for Canada. Putting Canada at 100%. Nobody else vote, the poll results are hilarious this way.

Joking aside, I think self-centeredness tends to cross genders in any country. I've found the Canucks I've met here to be extremly full of themselves, convinced they're the most educated, erudite, global people in the world, and that being ignorant of Canada is evidence of overall ignorance. Their main evidence for this is that they're more global and better educated than their big neocon neighbor to the South. Which may be true, but being smarter than the U.S. is about as prestigious as winning the special Olympics. Also, as a global player, Canada has not particularly called attention to itself in a way that would warrant everyone being knowledgable about it.

I'm from Wisconsin, by the way.


Yeah well I find yanks (or any other groups) who make sweeping generalizations about Canada and other nationalities to be extremely full of themselves.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
Nobody really hates women. Sometimes we love them the wrong way. Most of the time, we don't understand you for the exact reasons we don't understand ourselves. You gals don't always yourselves, either. Hopefully, we figure it out, later. Hopefully.
Okay, I take it back, there are a tiny minority who are simply sick. Haven't noticed many around here, though. If a guy has a different opinion than some particular woman, doesn't mean he hates all a ya, though.

Also, there's the guys who are just pullin' your chain. Please exclude them from the rest of us who simply disagree about one or two things. That's the way things really are. People disagree sometimes. Really. Disagreement does ot equal hate, though.


You should read some true crime by Ann Rule. Generally they are about murdered women. That should change your opinion a bit that "nobody hates women". If you've got an excuse for the guy (can't remember book title right now) that liked to abduct, rape, torture, and kill young women (and cut off their b r e a s t s and make construct plastic mouldings around them), I'd like to hear it.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:

I guess I just don't see how being superpower requires intelligence. The people of South Korea, for example, are on average more educated and informed than the peopl of China, as are the people of Japan. China could still take both of them in a fight. A monkey is smarter than a crocodile. I could go on.


More educated and informed? You might not say that if you taught my college students. Asking them to find China or India on a map (I teach "Travel English") or name ONE country in Europe... OY.
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

periwinkle wrote:
The Bobster wrote:
Nobody really hates women. Sometimes we love them the wrong way. Most of the time, we don't understand you for the exact reasons we don't understand ourselves. You gals don't always yourselves, either. Hopefully, we figure it out, later. Hopefully.

Okay, I take it back, there are a tiny minority who are simply sick. Haven't noticed many around here, though. If a guy has a different opinion than some particular woman, doesn't mean he hates all a ya, though.

Also, there's the guys who are just pullin' your chain. Please exclude them from the rest of us who simply disagree about one or two things. That's the way things really are. People disagree sometimes. Really. Disagreement does ot equal hate, though.


You should read some true crime by Ann Rule. Generally they are about murdered women. That should change your opinion a bit that "nobody hates women". If you've got an excuse for the guy (can't remember book title right now) that liked to abduct, rape, torture, and kill young women (and cut off their b r e a s t s and make construct plastic mouldings around them), I'd like to hear it.

I was referring mainly to people on these forums, because that's how this misogyny thing is usually talked about. I guess I should have made that more clear, but I really thought I did. Anyway, I did actually say that there are sick people in the world, but you chose not to highlight that part, didn't you?

Actually, I think you need to apologize to me for implying that I would wish to make excuses for rapists, torturers and mutilators. That was very impolite of you, and I don't think I've said or done anything to deserve it. One might even speculate that your behavior in this regard reflects a bit of misandry on your part ...

Cool
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
periwinkle wrote:
The Bobster wrote:
Nobody really hates women. Sometimes we love them the wrong way. Most of the time, we don't understand you for the exact reasons we don't understand ourselves. You gals don't always yourselves, either. Hopefully, we figure it out, later. Hopefully.

Okay, I take it back, there are a tiny minority who are simply sick. Haven't noticed many around here, though. If a guy has a different opinion than some particular woman, doesn't mean he hates all a ya, though.

Also, there's the guys who are just pullin' your chain. Please exclude them from the rest of us who simply disagree about one or two things. That's the way things really are. People disagree sometimes. Really. Disagreement does ot equal hate, though.


You should read some true crime by Ann Rule. Generally they are about murdered women. That should change your opinion a bit that "nobody hates women". If you've got an excuse for the guy (can't remember book title right now) that liked to abduct, rape, torture, and kill young women (and cut off their b r e a s t s and make construct plastic mouldings around them), I'd like to hear it.

I was referring mainly to people on these forums, because that's how this misogyny thing is usually talked about. I guess I should have made that more clear, but I really thought I did. Anyway, I did actually say that there are sick people in the world, but you chose not to highlight that part, didn't you?

Actually, I think you need to apologize to me for implying that I would wish to make excuses for rapists, torturers and mutilators. That was very impolite of you, and I don't think I've said or done anything to deserve it. One might even speculate that your behavior in this regard reflects a bit of misandry on your part ...

Cool


Well, sorry Bobster, but I have seen far too many posts from people making excuses for every sort of behavior imaginable. I felt you were being flip. I have a bad memory concerning who has written what, so I can't recall anything from you in the past that stands out (besides something that happened with Red Dog perhaps, but that's all I can come up with right now, and that was a different topic). However, I don't agree with your comment that there is no hatred of women on this site. I've read some really, really vile stuff on this site in the past, and there have been some really, really vile posters who have (dis)graced this board. I think the male posters aren't sensitive to it because they aren't on the receiving end. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine (nor am I alone in my perceptions).

Are you serious about the misandry comment? If so, then I think I, in turn, am entitled to an apology. At no time whatsoever have I ever made an anti-male comment on this site. Not once.
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="PeterDragon"]
DRAMA OVERKILL wrote:
PeterDragon wrote:
That just sounds retarded. Bumpkin of a country being smarter than THE world super power... Hmmm... Not quite "special olympics"...


I guess I just don't see how being superpower requires intelligence. The people of South Korea, for example, are on average more educated and informed than the peopl of China, as are the people of Japan. China could still take both of them in a fight. A monkey is smarter than a crocodile. I could go on.

If you think the monkey/crocodile analogy is apt, I'm guessing there's quite a lot in life you "just don't see."
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:

More educated and informed? You might not say that if you taught my college students. Asking them to find China or India on a map (I teach "Travel English") or name ONE country in Europe... OY.


Well, most of my experience so far has been with rich, perhaps exceptionally well educated hagwon kids. I haven't yet fully gauged the education levels of my rural public school kids yet, so you may very well be right.
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