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mindmetoo
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 Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: Student complaining about copying/cheating |
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| I noticed when a student is trying to copy or cheat off another student, the kid starts screaming something that sounds like either "hacking" or "cunning". Any ideas? |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Ideas about how to control YOUR classroom? Got any rules for the students to follow? Any punishment/reward system? |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:28 am Post subject: |
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"Hacking" and "cunning" are the words they use to indicate cheating.
I have absolutely no idea where they get it from.
So i try to explain the difference between cheating, hacking and cunning. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| Ideas about how to control YOUR classroom? Got any rules for the students to follow? Any punishment/reward system? |
Actually the poster below correctly read the context. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
"Hacking" and "cunning" are the words they use to indicate cheating.
I have absolutely no idea where they get it from.
So i try to explain the difference between cheating, hacking and cunning. |
Jesus. At first I thought it was Korean but them I'm like "wait, when did Koreans start using 'ing' at the end of Korean verbs?" |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| Aside from what they're calling it, I say implement a whistle-blower protection programme, along with insanely disproportionate rewards for squealers and punishments for cheaters. This attitude deserves massive support and encouragement before the country spawns yet another generation of cheats, liars, swindlers and degree-forgers. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| Aside from what they're calling it, I say implement a whistle-blower protection programme, along with insanely disproportionate rewards for squealers and punishments for cheaters. This attitude deserves massive support and encouragement before the country spawns yet another generation of cheats, liars, swindlers and degree-forgers. |
I just strip them of rights to my desktop cookie jar. Bastards! |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Student complaining about copying/cheating |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I noticed when a student is trying to copy or cheat off another student, the kid starts screaming something that sounds like either "hacking" or "cunning". Any ideas? |
Hacking is new to me, but 컨닝 is definitely Konglish for cheating. I teach writing, so every semester and every assignment I get at least 3-5 jokers who think I'm a sunsaengnimrod and try to put one past me.
They scream a storm when I jot down the zero, the word 컨닝, and the link to the naver translation they used.
Maybe hacking is new Konglish for cheating using a computer? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Student complaining about copying/cheating |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I noticed when a student is trying to copy or cheat off another student, the kid starts screaming something that sounds like either "hacking" or "cunning". Any ideas? |
Hacking is new to me, but 컨닝 is definitely Konglish for cheating. I teach writing, so every semester and every assignment I get at least 3-5 jokers who think I'm a sunsaengnimrod and try to put one past me.
They scream a storm when I jot down the zero, the word 컨닝, and the link to the naver translation they used.
Maybe hacking is new Konglish for cheating using a computer? |
Ha! |
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seoulsteve
Joined: 03 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Student complaining about copying/cheating |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I noticed when a student is trying to copy or cheat off another student, the kid starts screaming something that sounds like either "hacking" or "cunning". Any ideas? |
Hacking is new to me, but 컨닝 is definitely Konglish for cheating. |
I think it's 'con-ing'. Con as in scam. like a Con-man.
When I try to teach my kids 'cheating' they all giggle because I guess it sounds like a curse word. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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My kids definitely say cunning and hacking with the meaning of cheating...
I haven't heard conning before... |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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Heard the kiddies use both ages ago.
First time I heard 'cunning' though, I was very impressed. I was like, "Oh wow, you like Black Adder, too?". |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Student complaining about copying/cheating |
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| seoulsteve wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I noticed when a student is trying to copy or cheat off another student, the kid starts screaming something that sounds like either "hacking" or "cunning". Any ideas? |
Hacking is new to me, but 컨닝 is definitely Konglish for cheating. |
I think it's 'con-ing'. Con as in scam. like a Con-man.
When I try to teach my kids 'cheating' they all giggle because I guess it sounds like a curse word. |
Conning would make more sense. But then given the wide spread copying that goes on in business here (prostar, starpreya instead of starbucks) I would have to say copying is considered cunning. |
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oneofthesarahs
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| I generally implement a no tattling policy. It's really unfair for me to punish a kid for doing something that I didn't see them do. Plus many of my students delight in getting their friends in trouble and/or are whiny, so I'm not giving them the pleasure. I had one student tap another on the shoulder to ask a question, and the be-tapped student started screaming "TEACHER HE HIT!!" It's really annoying and I don't tolerate it. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| oneofthesarahs wrote: |
| I generally implement a no tattling policy. It's really unfair for me to punish a kid for doing something that I didn't see them do. Plus many of my students delight in getting their friends in trouble and/or are whiny, so I'm not giving them the pleasure. I had one student tap another on the shoulder to ask a question, and the be-tapped student started screaming "TEACHER HE HIT!!" It's really annoying and I don't tolerate it. |
I shout at them "I'M YOUR TEACHER NOT YOUR FREAKIN' MOTHER NOW SIT DOWN SHUT UP AND ACT LIKE STUDENTS NOT LITTLE BABIES." |
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