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stephensessions



Joined: 11 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Newbie needing a good city in Korea Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

This will be my first post to Daves Esl but I've been reading quite a few posts over the last couple weeks, preparing for my move to Korea this coming January.

I have a million questions, but we'll keep it simple to start off.

I'm hoping to live in a mid-sized Korean city with the following characteristics:

Universities
At least one bar that serves dark beer.
The possibility of taking runs, either in city parks or in the forest.
No more than 2 hours from either Seoul or Busan

Anyone have any ideas? If you've lived in any of these towns, could I get some opinions about them:
Changwon, Gyeongju, Chuncheon, Gangneung

I'm a young, outdoors-y guy that enjoys a nice pint of beer on the weekend. I've been teaching in Bangkok for the past few months and I'm tired of this big city life.

So let me know friends! If you talk up your town enough I might just end up there and will owe you a beer.

Thanks.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out Daejeon. Might be a little larger than you want, but it has everything you're looking for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daejeon
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abandon all hope of quality beer. Korea is where beer goes to die.

You'll have to search far and wide for it if you don't live in Seoul, and when you do find it it will be about 7-12,000 won a bottle.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such places only exist on Arirang TV, and Korean Tourism Marketing.
Both Liars.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Cohiba's Rule Reply with quote

Remember "Cohiba's Rule":

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell dart accessories, cuban cigars or
cowboy boots.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.

I, unfortunately, live in Incheon where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know!
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manguri - really nice area to live. Mountain to run up, 1 hour subway to Itaewon.

I highly recommend living there.
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Dugsby



Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ulsan has all that . . . well, university, not universities.
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jindodog



Joined: 31 May 2007
Location: not seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Cohiba's Rule Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
Remember "Cohiba's Rule":

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell dart accessories, cuban cigars or
cowboy boots.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.

I, unfortunately, live in Incheon where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know!


first of all, who is cohiba? second of all Rolling Eyes and third, Seoul is cool and all but there's still a lot to be had all over korea. your statements are well hyperbolic
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stephensessions



Joined: 11 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for all your replies.

I understand living a good distance from Seoul will decrease my options for Western foods, late night partying, and just things to do in general, but that's actually what I'm looking for!

I'm living in Bangkok at the moment, which has anything and everything I can want, but frankly I don't feel like I'm living in Thailand. So my goal for Korea is a slightly smaller city, one that I get to know and feel apart of, in some way. Keep those replies coming!

Sven
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Where? Reply with quote

I rather liked Andong, but it may not have a uni.
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Njord



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonju might be what you're looking for. Has universities, is about 2 hours from Seoul by bus, a friendly foreigner community, and is next to Chiaksan National Park - and some other mountains to go hiking.
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wo buxihuan hanguoren



Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Location: Suyuskis

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul. Seriously, every other place here sucks.

Seoul.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to think about Cheonan (may also be spelled Chunan) which is north of Daejon. It's 1 hour 15 minutes by train to Seoul, has all of (well, most of!) the western-style foods that you crave, loads of unis and an active expat night-life.

http://www.cheonancommunity.blogspot.com/

edit: I just noticed that the site hasn't been updated for a few months, but it will still give you an idea of what's available.
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