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(USA) Undecided voters should die.
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Cousin Larry



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: (USA) Undecided voters should die. Reply with quote

Seriously, if you don't know who you like, you're f'ing ridiculous. You are the guy who spends two hours deciding which humidifier to buy. I HATE UNDECIDED VOTERS, yet they are the dipshytes who decide every election.

AAAAHHHHRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(sorry, this probably belongs in current events, but I can't read that)
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, undecideds are okay as long as they vote. It's the non-voters who need to contract rectal cancer.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
Hell, undecideds are okay as long as they vote. It's the non-voters who need to contract rectal cancer.


Close your eyes and point doesnt work with the butterfly ballot, though.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because you can't decide doesn't mean you put a lot (or any) thought into it. It could be that you don't care. If someone asks me what the best harry potter movie is, i say, "Huh? I don't know. Put me down for undecided." When it comes to politicians, preferring one pice of crap over another isn't a high priority on everyone's mind.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Just because you can't decide doesn't mean you put a lot (or any) thought into it. It could be that you don't care. If someone asks me what the best harry potter movie is, i say, "Huh? I don't know. Put me down for undecided." When it comes to politicians, preferring one pice of crap over another isn't a high priority on everyone's mind.


seconded.
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write of weigh



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I came to Korea, I havent voted and heres y:

1. My state is absolutely always Democratic. Its not even close. ie, for all people who understand our voting system, my vote really doesnt count. An example of this would be the 2000 election where Gore actually had a majority of the the votes, however we know how that ended.

2. Absentee votes are not even counted. They are counted only if the election is close in the state.

Its politically correct to vote, yes, but your vote is valuable only in a swing state.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undecided voters may have no viable option for someone who represents them. Many people who don't vote are lazy and ignorant, but I would rather those people NOT play a part in politics. Many university students, an educated group, can't tell you WHY they are voting for someone. That's dangerous and leads to bad leaders. Other people who don't vote are making a personal choice and often a political statement because there are often no valuable candidates.

Voting doesn't do much, like write of weigh touched on. If you want to be political, you have to do more. Voting is too little and too seldom, but it gives idiots the feeling that they are being patriotic and lets them feel like they don't have to do anything else.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
When it comes to politicians, preferring one pice of crap over another isn't a high priority on everyone's mind.


Thirded.
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MANDRL



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I haven't been rocking the vote? Damn MTV.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Undecided voters may have no viable option for someone who represents them. Many people who don't vote are lazy and ignorant, but I would rather those people NOT play a part in politics. Many university students, an educated group, can't tell you WHY they are voting for someone. That's dangerous and leads to bad leaders. Other people who don't vote are making a personal choice and often a political statement because there are often no valuable candidates.

Voting doesn't do much, like write of weigh touched on. If you want to be political, you have to do more. Voting is too little and too seldom, but it gives idiots the feeling that they are being patriotic and lets them feel like they don't have to do anything else.



yeah, coming up with clever quips like 'muck fcdonalds' is the force that moves the world forward. keep it up, mr. freedom!
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the slogan "Don't vote? Then don't bittch."

Bush Hater: I f-ing hate Bush. He stole the elections. Blah blah blah.

Me: Did you vote?

Bush Hater: No.

Me: You are an idiot.
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write of weigh



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the slogan "Don't vote? Then don't bittch."

Bush Hater: I f-ing hate Bush. He stole the elections. Blah blah blah.

Me: Did you vote?

Bush Hater: No.

Me: You are an idiot.

Bush Hater: Im Canadian u sh** for brains. Now finish shining my shoes.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Many university students, an educated group, can't tell you WHY they are voting for someone. That's dangerous and leads to bad leaders. .



This isnt just a problem for uni students... its a fundamental problem of democracy. Can the people really be trusted to self-govern? Do they really know what is best for them, or do they need to be led? Remember, Plato said democracy is really a 'tyranny'... and later Jefferson used, "Tyranny of the majority".

We have this system in the USA that an 'indirect democratic republic' to mitigate for the excessive burdens on voters of having so many issues to vote for and the impossibility of having sufficient knowledge about most of those issues. But the upshot of it all is that the representatives we vote for dont always take our interests to heart... choosing instead to vote in a way such as to ensure re-election.

The principals behind democracy are good ones -- namely that people have inherent rights as humans to self-determine and that we all have free will and an ability to make a rational choice... But the exact mechanisms we have in the USA are f!cked up and its no wonder we have such a problem with voter apathy.
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whoever you vote for the government gets in

i wish more people abstained, what is the point in voting in a rigged election?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't like any of the candidates (and/or parties), not voting for them is entirely consistent with principles of democracy. For instance, I wouldn't have voted for Bush or Kerry in 2004. I might have considered a vote for Kerry to keep the other out, but I probably would have found that a poor reason for a vote.

I therefore find compulsory voting (Australia) utter nonsense.
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