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endofthewor1d
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 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: you'll whine if you sign in '09. |
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sorry. i'm drunk and that's the best rhyme i could come up with.
i was killing some time earlier today, and i was flipping through the months on my mobile phone. i discovered that in 2009, there are only seven red days between monday and friday for the entire year.
bummer. |
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koon_taung_daeng
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Red day? is that when girls have their periods? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HA HA HA!
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Areut
Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Location: Behind You!!!!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| koon_taung_daeng wrote: |
| Red day? is that when girls have their periods? |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| That's why you take a job that has 4-6 months of holidays. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Yea, vacations are too few in hagwon jobs just like in a blue collar or service job at home. Teaching is mentally stressful like anything else is that is a social science or anything involving constant human interactions such as sales and management. I thought telemarketing was the most exhausting sit down job ever on account of the stress of constant human interaction of gaining their approval and selling an idea. I must say any job based on talking and constant leadership is exhausting and demands more time off than say a job in IT working with computers which I so want to enter by getting certification. Stinks for store managers who got to work always as I know they have it even harder than an ESL hagwon teacher here.
Like managing, teaching is tough without enough vacation, because you get tired from all the class room management issues and disobedience and general disapproval from kids not wanting to go to school and refusing to perform. I have grown to hate teaching on account of exhaustion over stress of students doing the same dumb bad behavior again and again of not listening and rebelling. These kids are not being parented due to parents being business leaders locally which tells them they can do as they please, except skip school that is. It gets exhausting after many weeks and months straight for the hagwon teachers and the students. It is not appropriate to operate a school full time like you would a factory or restaurant.
Do yourself a favor, if wanting a teaching career, get a real teaching job, one that gives you plenty of time off with about 20 class hours a week such as found in public schools in Korea or America. Hagwon teaching is exhausting on account of a lack of time off and a system that does not facilitate student discipline to make teaching fun and productive. |
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write of weigh
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: Re: you'll whine if you sign in '09. |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
sorry. i'm drunk and that's the best rhyme i could come up with.
i was killing some time earlier today, and i was flipping through the months on my mobile phone. i discovered that in 2009, there are only seven red days between monday and friday for the entire year.
bummer. |
This really makes me think:
If ur rowing ur canoe down ur back yard
and ur left rear wheel falls off,
how many pancakes does it take to make a doghouse? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| sojourner1 wrote: |
Do yourself a favor, if wanting a teaching career, get a real teaching job, one that gives you plenty of time off with about 20 class hours a week such as found in public schools in Korea or America. |
Nobody I know who teaches public school in America works 20 class hrs a week. Where did you live? |
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kotakji
Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| Atavistic wrote: |
| sojourner1 wrote: |
Do yourself a favor, if wanting a teaching career, get a real teaching job, one that gives you plenty of time off with about 20 class hours a week such as found in public schools in Korea or America. |
Nobody I know who teaches public school in America works 20 class hrs a week. Where did you live? |
I would think 20ish hours is about standard in the US? 5 classes a day/50 minutes per class 5 days a week is just under 21 hours a week. Along with one free period of 'prep time' and the lunch period that made up a standard 7 period public school day. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| kotakji wrote: |
| Atavistic wrote: |
| sojourner1 wrote: |
Do yourself a favor, if wanting a teaching career, get a real teaching job, one that gives you plenty of time off with about 20 class hours a week such as found in public schools in Korea or America. |
Nobody I know who teaches public school in America works 20 class hrs a week. Where did you live? |
I would think 20ish hours is about standard in the US? 5 classes a day/50 minutes per class 5 days a week is just under 21 hours a week. Along with one free period of 'prep time' and the lunch period that made up a standard 7 period public school day. |
Dream on.
If you put in those kind of hours, no one would renew your contract. Prepping for classes, extra curricular activities, marking, report cards, meetings, prof. development, I've never heard of a teacher who worked the hours you describe.
There's a reason why turnover in teaching for grads is 30%+ in the first 5 years, despite the holidays. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Must be signed in for at least 35 hours a week, at my most recent US public school job.[/b] |
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kotakji
Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| kotakji wrote: |
| Atavistic wrote: |
| sojourner1 wrote: |
Do yourself a favor, if wanting a teaching career, get a real teaching job, one that gives you plenty of time off with about 20 class hours a week such as found in public schools in Korea or America. |
Nobody I know who teaches public school in America works 20 class hrs a week. Where did you live? |
I would think 20ish hours is about standard in the US? 5 classes a day/50 minutes per class 5 days a week is just under 21 hours a week. Along with one free period of 'prep time' and the lunch period that made up a standard 7 period public school day. |
Dream on.
If you put in those kind of hours, no one would renew your contract. Prepping for classes, extra curricular activities, marking, report cards, meetings, prof. development, I've never heard of a teacher who worked the hours you describe.
There's a reason why turnover in teaching for grads is 30%+ in the first 5 years, despite the holidays. |
I believe the original poster was referring to actual hours teaching classes which is what I was referring to. Actual clock in time would be something like 8am~3:30 maybe 4:00 or at least thats how it was at my HS. That comes out to a solid 35-40 hours total but take into consideration that a good 8-9 hours of that a week is just students shuffling between classes and the lunch period wherein your a glorified lunch monitor thats not too bad. Working 40 hours a week is nothing bad, teaching 40 class hours a week as most K-teachers I've known however would be downright torturous. |
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