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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: getting a public school job Reply with quote

i wondered how easy it is to get a job in a public school, and do they only hire at certain times of the year?
i am leaving korea in a month, to travel for a few months before going home.
i know i won't last long at home, and would like to come back to korea. i've had a horrendous experience with my hagwon, and would really like to get a job in a public school.
can anyone give any advice/tips/pointers
thanks Cool
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll start advertising in December and January for February and March start dates. Some jobs start in April.

Take a look around the FAQ and Job forums for some background information on applying to and working in public schools.
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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info. i had a mooch around, but a lot of the stickies are from 2004. just wondered if anyone has more up to date info.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The information is basically the same, and there are posts from public school jobs on a daily basis. (That's because there's a fair bit of downtime during the day, so people like me can come here and bitch).

If you're looking to teach in Seoul, run a search for "SMOE," Seoul Ministry of Education. For Gyeonggi-do, "GEPIK," for other parts of Korea, "EPIK" (though EPIK really sucks). Other recruiters take care of other provinces, so you don't have to use EPIK. "Canadian Connections" does Jeollanam-do, and others are in charge of other places.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education.
SMOE / ETIS : http://etis.sen.go.kr/

Gyeonggi provincial program.
GEPIK: http://gepik.ken.go.kr/

The rest of Korea.
EPIK: http://epik.knue.ac.kr/ (Now run by NIIED - http://www.ied.go.kr/english/ )
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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great info, thank you Very Happy we've been recommended canadian connections by teachers in the past - we're brits, but they said that didn't matter.
i'll start making enquiries. keep the info coming....
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ghost



Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Many congenial places

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: vacation time Reply with quote

The vacation allowance is lousy. One of the benefits of classroom teachers is the long vacation time, in most countries = 3 months per year.

I notice on the website, that the annual leave is a mere 21 days per year.

Is it possible to take unpaid leave?

Ghost
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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

21 days sounds fab compared to what i've been used to.
if i stipulate pre-contract that i need to take my holiday within a certain period (end of aug) the school can work with me?
i know it sounds like i'm being a diva, but this 2 week period is really important to me. i NEED to be home during this time.
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ghost



Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Many congenial places

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

One of the reasons I got into teaching, was the benefits, including long holidays. I have taught in Ontario (French) and Quebec (ESL) and believe me when you teach most of the year, you do need to 'recover' for 2 months in summer, 2 weeks at Christmas and 1 week at Easter (total 2.5 months a year, because we start one week early at the end of August).

In Korea, on the other hand, why is it that if we teach in Public schools, it appears difficult/impossible, to have the vacactions which are given to the students - which is usually 1 month in August and around 2 months during winter break?

Ghost
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education.
SMOE / ETIS : http://etis.sen.go.kr/

Gyeonggi provincial program.
GEPIK: http://gepik.ken.go.kr/

The rest of Korea.
EPIK: http://epik.knue.ac.kr/ (Now run by NIIED - http://www.ied.go.kr/english/ )


So basically if I want to teach in a public school there is NO WAY to get around that stupid letters of reference requirement? Uuuugh. I'd rather just give them phone numbers. I asked my former boss for one and he said "bring one by and I'll sign it". Rolling Eyes Guess I'd better get writing.

Does it matter who it's from? I still have a couple reference letters from high school kicking around. And if I asked my university profs I'd be likely to get "who are you?"
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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah - is a reference letter a requirement? i'm not sure my hagwon will oblige.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newintown wrote:
yeah - is a reference letter a requirement? i'm not sure my hagwon will oblige.


You need TWO letters of reference.

Now you're really worried, eh.
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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education.
SMOE / ETIS : http://etis.sen.go.kr/

Gyeonggi provincial program.
GEPIK: http://gepik.ken.go.kr/

The rest of Korea.
EPIK: http://epik.knue.ac.kr/ (Now run by NIIED - http://www.ied.go.kr/english/ )


So basically if I want to teach in a public school there is NO WAY to get around that stupid letters of reference requirement? Uuuugh. I'd rather just give them phone numbers. I asked my former boss for one and he said "bring one by and I'll sign it". Rolling Eyes Guess I'd better get writing.

Does it matter who it's from? I still have a couple reference letters from high school kicking around. And if I asked my university profs I'd be likely to get "who are you?"


yeah i wrote two letters of recommendation for myself a few months ago and got some k teachers to sign them. I'm wondering if there is going to be a problem though because there are no contact details on the letters and that is required apparently.

TBH i think I think it would be fine if you got another foreigner to write a letter of reference for you, especially if they are level 1 EPIK or work in a university. Think DDeubel or Ttompatz not Kid65.

For the record I have a new job starting in october. There are ps jobs around, you just have to keep an eye open. If you find them out of season you wont have to go through the EPIK lottery but you might have trouble finding a good location.
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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously? two? specifically from korean contacts?
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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newintown wrote:
seriously? two? specifically from korean contacts?


yes seriously two. you can check the required documents

http://epik.knue.ac.kr/sub3/sub3_1_2.asp

they dont need to be from a korean

that said, the two letters of recommendation are not listed as one of the essential items you need in order to commence employment, maybe you can hand them in after you start working. still. they are 'required'
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