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[The Bobster]

I'm not running for office, but if I were ...

1. Take every bit of American military out of Iraq, ASAP. We are doing no good there, for ourselves or anyone else. We are making everything worse for America and the whole Middle East just by being there. Let them sort it out themselves. My guess is that the various factions will have much less patience with any folk who are connected to Al Queda than we have ever or will ever be. We got rid of a bad dictactor we once supported. That's enough. Let the people who live there work out the rest. We honestly don't have the know-how to get all these people to get together and learn how to love one another, right now. I doubt we ever will.

2. Concentrate American military action in Afghanistan, where it does and always has belonged. Root out and capture / eliminate every Al Queda or Taliban stronghold. Round them up and put them on trial. Torture or rendition is not necessary - just pass the right laws and put the effers in jail or send them to heaven, depending on the verdict.

3. Reduce America's dependence on foreign oil - in Malcomb X's words - BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. And don't wait until we have to, do it now. If we have to slice a vein in the Alaska wilderness, do it. I love the environoment, always will, but if a single caribou or spotted owl or even a bald eagle stands between the You Ess Ov Aye and the Middle east Oil Teat, chop those suckers down and cry about it later.

4. Develop and encourage EVERY source of energy that does NOT rely on oil. I'm talkin' wind, geothermal, tidal, hell, even nuclear plants. ANYthing that is not oil or coal.

5. Open borders and science data doors to China and do everything with them to encourage them to do the same. They probably want to - they are so big, and they are going through development that other parts of the world did 50 years ago, and the rest of the planet will not be able to make that work without this likely killing us all.

6. Get ready to do the same with India. Both of these countries need to learn that the biosphere cannot survive if everyone wants to live like America and Europe has lived since the middle of the 20th Century. Ain't gonna work. Never could, never will.Yeah, it's not fair, but it's real ... oh, and somehow America is ghoing to have learn the same thing.

7. Let N Korea know, and make them believe, we WILL give you stuff if you open up your nuke program, shut it down and call it quits. But we want more. We want you to join the world again. Let people visit. Let your people go, if they want to. Let S Korean TV and internet and other media come in there. If you are serving your people well, you have nothing to fear if they know what the outside world is like.

I might be busy over the next couple of days, so I gave you 7 potential thread topics all rolled into one. Have fun ... oh, just thought of one more.

8. NOBODY's gonna like this : a moratorium on babies. I love 'em, they're cute, and it'll hurt my wallet if there aren't plenty around (cuz I teach kids), but you know what? The one thing THIS planet has got plenty of is people. It ain't cougars or iguanas or hybiscus flowers that are messing up the ozone and changing the climate, it's us. Just tell everybody, Finland, Madagasgar, Arizona, Kamchatka, I don't care - "We got enough right now, thank you, let's all wait 5 or 7 years and see if the death rate catches up the birth rate ... can you all hold in for just a little while? Please?"

Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

actuallly not bad. except for 1. and 2


For number one you wouldn't leave any US forces to protect the Kurds who supported the US? Kurdistan is not a liberal democracy but it is politically more liberal and democratic than the rest of the mideast. It is moving in the correct direction. All that would be lost.

For number two Alan Dershowitz said that in the ticking bomb situation the someone ought to get a warrent from the US supreme court for extreme interrogation.

Afghanistan isn't it true that none of the 9-11 hijackers were from Afghanistan or Pakistan? Neither is Osama Bin Laden , Nor his number two Zawarhari. Their ex number three Mohmand Atef but also a founder of the organziation was also not from Afghanistan or Pakistan. The one who came after him was not from Afghanistan or Pakistan.

[cbclark4]

As an Opponent I would like to outline my Platform.

1. Leave Iraq let the Caliphatic tide run it's course. The communist tide ran it's course it is for the most part dead internationally, I assume the idiocy of theocracy will see it's end shortly. The Kurdish question may be something to think about, maybe ask Turkey to give some territory create a Kurdistan leave troops there, or allow Turkey to protect them. Half of Iraq will eventually fall under Tehran and the Ayatollah the other half will fall under Damascus.

2 Leave Afghanistan again to the Caliphatic tide. Lend support to Pakistan should Iran take an interest in Afghanistan.

3. Build more Nuclear power plants.

4. Explore alternate fuel sources.

5. China is huge it will be struggling through it's economic development, it the process it may swallow the pacific rim markets. Be prepared to take advantage of the investments. These developments should pull the giant into the free market.

6. The India thing. Yes a developing economy. Yes invest and develop. I really think India will struggle much more than China. It is essential that we grow a good policy here too, partly because of the close proximity the Tehran Caliphate.

7. Find a way to open N. Korea to the world. Normalize relations with them. Develop trade with them. If necessary render massive foreign aid. We have aided dictators in the past, why stop now. There are people there that need help. If we have to hold our nose while doing this then fine.

8. The baby thing. Create a UN space agency. Anyone in the world fathering or mothering more than one child pays a tax to this agency for development of extraterrestrial habitats.

9. Really belongs in 7. Cuba, end the embargo try to open and normalize relations. The revolution was long ago and without the USSR Cuba is no threat to our, sovereignty, or way of life. Communism is no longer the threat it was (the new threat is the rising Caliphates). What is communism today is capitalism with social agenda, not that there's anything wrong with that.

10. Don't isolate Venezuela completely. Let Hugo know he is making mistakes. Watch what happens maybe this is a necessary step to alleviate the poverty burden in South American social structures.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Turkey will not protect the Kurds - they hate them. Nevertheless it is interesting to note that Kurds ran from Saddams Iraq to Turkey.

At any rate Al Qaeda will attack the US if the US has trade or diplomatic relations with nations that Al Qaeda doesn't like or if the US votes at the UN the way the US see fits or maybe publishes books they don't approve of.and the more progress Al Qaeda makes in the world the more demands they will make.

[JMO]

I strongly agree with the build nuclear power plants and explore alternative energy. America is too dependent on middle eastern oil.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[cbclark4]

[cbclark4]

I would also like to note that my platform has ten Planks, while my opponent has only 7.

I would also note that Mr. Joo is a critic without merit, has aboutely no platform to speak of and is probably hiding something.

Am I allowed to add more planks?

[Woland]

[Ya-ta Boy]

And this week's Paranoia Linked to the Caliphate Award goes to....

Not even big verne on his best day mentioned the caliphate that many times in one post. Well done, boy.

[The Bobster]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I think I can go along with your foreign policy without much trouble, but what about the truly important things like DOMESTIC policy.

What issues do you see and what are your plans to repair the 27 years worth of Republican damage?

[JMO]

I would only need two short planks to illustrate how thick you all are.

[Kuros]