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BourneNOIR



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Does anyone here listen to J-Pop? Reply with quote

Hi! Just curious if anyone here listen to J-Pop.

I don't understand Japanese (though I'm learning), but I find myself attach to that genre of music more frequently than others.

I noticed there's quite a number of members from Japan here. Does anyone know the group Morning Musume?

Which other J-Pop artist/group do you listen to if you do listen to J-Pop?
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Does anyone here listen to J-Pop? Reply with quote

BourneNOIR wrote:
Hi! Just curious if anyone here listen to J-Pop.

I don't understand Japanese (though I'm learning), but I find myself attach to that genre of music more frequently than others.

I noticed there's quite a number of members from Japan here. Does anyone know the group Morning Musume?

Which other J-Pop artist/group do you listen to if you do listen to J-Pop?
I listen to it sometimes. Morning Musume is cute and genki, but it's kind of paedo pervish for anyone over legal adult age to admit to listening to them too much (at least for a guy). Twisted Evil Wink
I prefer rock music (classic rock, grunge rock, etc.), so my musical tastes are more toward Keisuke Kuwata (桑田 佳祐) and the Southern All Stars or Mongol 800.

One of the biggest bands out there is SMAP which has an enduring sound (and a number of prime time TV shows).

For female performers, you must know about Ayu. Though personally I like BoA (who is not actually Japanese but does a lot of J-Pop songs) for her incredible vocal range. And when you're feeling weird, you can't help but smile listening to that classic girls' punk band Shonen Knife. Very Happy
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BourneNOIR



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Does anyone here listen to J-Pop? Reply with quote

Bob S. wrote:
Morning Musume is cute and genki, but it's kind of paedo pervish for anyone over legal adult age to admit to listening to them too much (at least for a guy). Twisted Evil Wink

I think you mean the majority of their fanbase, huh? Laughing Hey, there's nothing wrong with guys liking "cute" things... at least in East Asian culture... just not in an obsessive, twisted, kind of way Wink

Bob S. wrote:
For female performers, you must know about Ayu. Though personally I like BoA (who is not actually Japanese but does a lot of J-Pop songs) for her incredible vocal range. And when you're feeling weird, you can't help but smile listening to that classic girls' punk band Shonen Knife. Very Happy

Interesting, I actually know about BoA but not Ayu. One of the first J-Pop songs that I was exposed to were sang by BoA, but it took me a while to realize that she's Korean. Hm, I'll check out some of the other stuff you've mentioned...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Does anyone here listen to J-Pop? Reply with quote

BourneNOIR wrote:
Bob S. wrote:
it's kind of paedo pervish for anyone over legal adult age
I think you mean the majority of their fanbase, huh? Laughing Hey, there's nothing wrong with guys liking "cute" things... at least in East Asian culture... just not in an obsessive, twisted, kind of way Wink
Let's just say that, as the father of a little girl myself, I find the idea of a bunch of 14 or 15-year old girls singing "Love Machine" very disturbing. Confused Embarassed Sad
I gotta go out and buy a gun before she gets to that age.

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Interesting, I actually know about BoA but not Ayu. One of the first J-Pop songs that I was exposed to were sang by BoA, but it took me a while to realize that she's Korean. Hm, I'll check out some of the other stuff you've mentioned...
Oh yeah, Ayumi Hamasaki is a huge mega diva. She has a very distinctive voice and style. A lot of us outsiders' first exposure to J-pop is through anime theme songs, and BoA is definitely the go-to-girl for a lot of that. But for what's hip, you have to follow the career of Ayu who is much more a self-made star with an independent musical bent (other J-pop stars are much more controlled by their agents and record companies).
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BourneNOIR



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Does anyone here listen to J-Pop? Reply with quote

Bob S. wrote:
Oh yeah, Ayumi Hamasaki is a huge mega diva. She has a very distinctive voice and style.

Oh! Ayu = Ayumi... Sorry didn't make that connection (your previous link didn't work because Youtube's blocked at work...Razz). Yep, I know about her... her CD was one of the first in my JPop collection (if you consider a few CDs as a "collection").

Bob S. wrote:
Let's just say that, as the father of a little girl myself, I find the idea of a bunch of 14 or 15-year old girls singing "Love Machine" very disturbing. Confused Embarassed Sad
I gotta go out and buy a gun before she gets to that age.

I guess it depends on the context... I understand from a father's perspective like yours (although the time has yet to come for me) that it may be disturbing. But to me, I view it as much more innocuous when compared to radio "hits" like My Humps and Toxic (or some of Britney's songs for that matter) that the kids are exposed to. The tone and the melody of Love Machine was not meant to be seductive nor was the PV (oh wait, you have the link...), at least when compared to what we hear on the radio in the US nowadays.
Quote:
I�m too good for you (fu fu)
I�ve really got a nice body
If I say so myself
I�m not a bad catch! Am I?
If you�re hot, you should cool off (fu fu)
If you�re lonely, Everybody
Nobody knows (fu fu)
When the flame of love will be lit
Dynamite, love is dynamite

No matter how bad the recession is, love is inflation
It�s indecent to treat me this well
My future is bright, I hope to find a job

The world envies
Japan�s future
Let�s fall in love
Dance! Dancin� all of the night

I feel like something�s missing (fu fu)
No matter where I am, I want you to love me
I can tell you that myself
I�m not embarrassed
We�re the perfect couple (couple)
Everybody wishes they were us
Nobody notices (fu fu)
That love is the pitfall of a dream
Mystery, love is a mystery

Love�s insiders say it�s not natural
But if you�re treated well, be open about it
Am I going to have to wait on hold for the day happiness arrives?

The world envies
Your smile
We have dreams, right?
Dance! Dancin� all of the night!

Love love love machine (wow wow wow wow)
Love love love station (yeah yeah yeah yeah)
Love love love factory(wow wow wow wow)
Love! Love is so wonderful

The world envies
Japan�s future
Let�s fall in love
Dance! Dancin� all of the night

Even Morning Musume (wow wow wow wow)
Even you and me (yeah yeah yeah yeah)
Everyone, even the boss (wow wow wow wow)
Dance! Dancin' all of the night

Quite frankly, I don't really see anything disturbing in the lyrics... maybe playfully "sexy" at best. Nothing seductive or suggesting. And in the context of a 14 yr. old it would be more like a first crush than anything else. Love has many different levels.
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peterteacher



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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard that Morning Musume song but going by those lyrics it sounds pretty tame compared to..... well pretty much ALL Top 40 western songs.... Smile And again, I'm not really on sure footing here, but I always assumed the singers were in their late teens/early twenties?

Regarding other J-Pop, I've a soft spot for the guitar and vocals of YUI whom I came across via a simple, romantic movie: Taiyou no Uta. (Song of/to/for?? Confused the Sun)

If you want a look at a quick variety of Japanese offerings, check out the soundtrack to Fast and the Furious 3: Tokyo Drift.
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