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Hong-Hsien, Ke



Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: How to improve grammar skill Reply with quote

Dear Teachers:

I am a student in Taiwan.
And I think grammar to me is a hard thing to learn.
I want to ask how American students learn grammar.
Do they have to learn grammar book and memorize many rules for grammar?

thanks
best wishes
H.H.Ke
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Bluegum



Joined: 26 Oct 2008
Posts: 89
Location: Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am an ESL teacher - a native English speaker, though not an American. I have also studied Chinese, and I found it very difficult to learn the tones. On the other hand, Chinese grammar seemed wonderfully simple compared to English.
If you learn a language as a child, it seems easy and natural. Children have a natural ability to learn a language. After about 12 years old, it becomes much more difficult - grammar in English, tones in Chinese.
I am afraid you must memorise rules, but practice, listening and being familiar with English patterns also help.
Remember when you use English, you must always ask,when was this? (past, present, future etc.) Gradually you will learn to use the correct verb tense.
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rice07



Joined: 26 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bluegum wrote:
grammar in English, tones in Chinese.


Hi Bluegum,

Sorry to jump in! but I have to say I couldn't agree with you more.

Hi Hong- Hsien Ke.

A non-native speaker of English, rice07, from Taiwan too, would like to recommend you a good grammar book- 長春藤英文文法, 作者:賴世雄,長春藤出版社.

I think it is necessary for you to know the grammar rules, if you want to have a good command of English(In particular had you ever taken a good look at English newspaper, you would have known what I meant). But at the beginning of that, I'll suggest that you just need to know the basic rules, and then take a lot of reading- but you have to choose those that match your level- to help facilitate understanding of the rules. Naturally you'll gradually cut to the core of it. What I mean is not to say I master English. I'm far from being an excellent English learner. That's just the experience of English learning I want to share with.

有時把the grammar rules 當作是啟發English觀念的工具即可,否則你會學得很痛苦, with a lot of exceptions exsiting in the English grammar rules. Hope what I'm trying to say is understandable. I'm sorry English and Chinese took turns appearing in the text, because I'm hopeless at typing Chinese . Embarassed Embarassed

路遙知馬力.要怎麼收穫先那麼栽.過程雖苦 得堅持.不經一番寒徹骨怎得梅花撲鼻香(No pain, no gain). HANG IN THERE!
Good luck!

Sincerely
rice07
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