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puzzle



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:17 pm    Post subject: it Reply with quote

Dear teachers,
Sometimes it's confusing to distinguish "it, that", so could you please tell me why "it" is used in the following sentence?

I drink black coffee while he prefers it with cream.

black coffee in the sentence is of the same kind, but not the same one, right? Why "it" is used here?

Thank you very much!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: it Reply with quote

puzzle wrote:
Dear teachers,
Sometimes it's confusing to distinguish "it, that", so could you please tell me why "it" is used in the following sentence?

I drink black coffee while he prefers it with cream.

black coffee in the sentence is of the same kind, but not the same one, right? Why "it" is used here?

Thank you very much!


It refers to black coffee. Using it removes the need to repeat black coffee. The verb prefer is followed by a noun (object) - we can't just say "I prefer with cream."

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean why use "it", not "that" or other words here?
Thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

puzzle wrote:
I mean why use "it", not "that" or other words here?
Thank you!

This and that are demonstratives -- imagine pointing at an object when you use them eg I like that car (you point at a particular car so that there is no confusion.) This pen is mine (you are clearly indicating a pen.)
In your example sentence, you are referring generally to coffee and there is no confusion so there is no use for a demonstrative. We use the object pronoun it as a replacement for black coffee.
I hope this is clearer?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please look at these sentences:
1. This is my pen, and it was bought three days ago. Here "it" refers to my pen, the same kind of thing and the same one ,so "it" is used here.
2. The weather here is colder than that in Beijing.
Here "that" refers to the weather , the same thing but not the same one,so "that" is used here.

So I am still a bit confused why that is not used here. Because the black coffee he drinks is not the same as I drinks.

Thank you anyway!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/student/viewtopic.php?p=111248&highlight=#111248
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: it Reply with quote

Question:

"I drink black coffee while he prefers it with cream."

So I am still a bit confused why that is not used here. Because the black coffee he drinks is not the same as I drinks.

Answer:

As ieltsonly explained, "it" is used to refer back to "black coffee".

"That" is not used here because there is no comparison involved. You are not comparing two things.

In your example "The weather here is colder than that in Beijing", however, you are comparing the weather here with the weather in Beijing. Instead of repeating "the weather" in the second part of the sentence, the demonstrative pronoun "that" is used.

I hope this helps.
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