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Diana



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject: Russian children taken hostage. Reply with quote

A group of terrorists have taken over a school and are holding many children, teachers, and parents as hostages. They demand that the government release their comrades in prison otherwise they will kill 50 children. Again, I condemned this barbaric act. These terrorists are nothing but bent on religious hatred and want to control the world.

It doesn't matter how much one appeases the terrorists. Just look at France. The terrorists in Iraq have kidnapped two French journalists and are demanding that France withdraw their ban on wearing headscarfs. This same ban also forbids Jews from wearing their caps forbids the Christians from wearing large crosses. Nevertheless, the terrorist is trying to dictate to the world. By the way, many of the French people were stunned that they are facing this crisis according to the news report. I find it suprising that many French were stunned and shocked. Didn't they know that the terrorist target everyone including the innocent?
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huier



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terrorists are threatening the world through the innocent peaple. they are damn it hatred. but sometimes,we were submited for considering of the hostages. but,it was really bad solving method. more and more terrors were happening. more and more hostages died. I weep for these innocent lives, and I wish all the hostages will be back their warm home.
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Diana



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest news reported that over 300 people in the school died. 155 of them were children while the rest were parents and teachers. Crying or Very sad My condolences and sympathies to the families and the people of Russia.

Diana
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Passerby



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Why treat these jerks as human being? Reply with quote

They claim they are fighting for the truth. They say it's the contribution to their belief and I say resorting to this sort of means for what they claim on is bull-*beep*.

The same, I could kill, terminate a race because someone's told me that it's the destiny.

Conducting this tragedy is certainly considered wrongdoing and everyone could tell what's wrong. But, who cares? Do you support to force to settle problems? And this is gonna be endless but not by it, it's also endless.

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mkg1211



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I share u all sorry and sadness of what had happened in Russia

i hope all people who lose sb ,to overcome their crisis


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This same ban also forbids Jews from wearing their caps forbids the Christians from wearing large crosses.


dear

the comparison between tews' cap , crosses an headscarf ,is fair

Because there is no order or any instructionin both bible ,taorah to wear cross nor cap
so it's understood that both of them are religious symbol
BUT
In Islam,Hejab is religious obligation , divine precept , religious duty .
unwearing it is cosiderd as a sin .

i hope i could present the idea well
love,
MKG
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pugachevV



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Nonsense Reply with quote

What could be sinful about showing your face?
If it is sinful to show your face, why is it not sinful for men to show their faces?
Also, why is it permitted to murder children and not permitted for a woman to show her face?
Why has no Muslim leader condemned this murder of innocents but all of them are whining about France's decision??
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mkg1211



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peace be upon u all
dear
i think u have understood me wrongly!
1-as for faces,it's widely allowed to show woman face but the problem pured in the scarf ,and if u follow news ,i saw many demonstrations in france carried out by french muslim women who were completely against this decison;they weared the hejab and their faces were shown

2-as for what u have said about killing,i really felt hurt from what u have said .Dear in Islam ,Killing is strongly prohibited and the one who killed one unjustly,as if he killed all humans
i and all muslimes condemn the russian massacre and all leaer as i know also ddo
N.B. i didn't hear a single word from our political leader condemning the french decision



Love,Peace
MKG
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Diana



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are actually some people who disagree with the French decision of banning head scarfs, crosses, and jewish caps. Nevertheless, that is still no excuse for the Muslims to kidnap French journalists and threaten to kill them. The Muslims can protest the ban all they want, but why threaten to kill two innocent people over it?
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mkg1211



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
some people who disagree

I deeply think it is more than some

Quote:
that is still no excuse for the Muslims to kidnap French journalists and threaten to kill them

i think it is wrong to say the muslims ,there is some people who can't exceed 100 man from 1500000000 muslims ,who did this kidnap

being a muslim,i compeletly condemn this action
and if u follow the news Sunni Islam's highest religious authority in Iraq condemn this action calling for releasing the journalists

to know muslims' response against this kidnap
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0D442E41-2A9A-46C0-A1A9-5A36E5731B90.htm
LOVE,PEACE
MKG
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niclopes



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:05 am    Post subject: the death of russian children is very serious. But Reply with quote

But so serios as this, is the reaction of Vladimir Putin. I know that he wants exactly what happened in Brazil in the 70�s: all of the power in his hands. He won�t allow direct election of governors. There�s no freedom in Russia. I watched a video in which a woman protested against Putin about the death of her son in the submarine and soon she was catchen by the secret service.
I think that as the world seized Cuba, I must be done with Russia if Putin goes on.
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ilya



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you know about freedom in Russia if you are not here. Governers have been elected only with protection of Kremlin. Have you known about that? Of course not. We are not America or Europe and the same laws don`t work here sometimes.
It would be better because parliament is elected by local people without protection of Kremlin.
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mkg1211



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do agree with you Putin wanna to gather all the power in his hands ,i deeply know that he doesn't care of any of his people as you have said the crisis of the submarine when he refused the help of the international community and as a result ,more than 100 men were killed in the submarine (korsic)
also,when he ordered to breake into the theatre in Moscow using very toxic gas ,killing hundereds of Russian
also what happened in the storming into the school


at last,what do you expect from a KGB agent?????
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ilya



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today i was walking along our central square and there was a meeting. This meeting happen every week and it is arranged by communists. They abuse Putin how they wish. And they are alive. Do you know about that? You know nothing.
Do you know that this submarine was risen, it was very dangerous and expansive project but he promissed he would do it for relatives of victims and all sailors. And he did it. Do you know what the hugest compensation relatives got? Of course, not.
You read a small article in a magazine in a some public toilet and start thinking that this is the only truth.
You know nothing about Russia, Chechnya and terrorism here. For fightnig with terrorism you must have perfect special services. There was KGB which was able to solve this problems.
I don`t agree with Putin what the State has been doing with Yukos. But some parties, many civilians try to defence Yukos. And you can go to streets and protest. There was a free press which write whatever it wants. Do you know this? I can tell you official sites of this magazines and newspapers, and you may take dictionary and translate. You will be persuaded.
Our democratic parties are full of talkers, they have done many mistakes, they have done nothing and just talk. People didn`t believe them and elect Putin.
Have you read something about this? We, russians, can not understand Putin completly, because he is different. But we never say that he doesn`t care about people. He works for 17-18 hours a day during all week. Have seen him during this tradgedy in Beslan. Of course not.
Go to the toilet, you`ve forgotten you magazine there.
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asterix



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Putin can solve the problem of these Muslim child murderers, it will be a great step forward for Russia and the world. The Chechens are trying to destabilise the country by committing outrageous acts of terrorism so that they can grab some power for themselves.
I think Putin is strong enough to deal with them and I hope that somewhere in his character there is a little bit of Stalin.
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mkg1211



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the west deceptively cry on Eastern Timor,Darfur as they are in muslim countries(indonesia,sudan)and it comes to muslims chechan or Dagistan or Palestine or..,..or..............etc
we don't hear any single word Question
why UN can't give chechan the right to choose their destiny?????
this country has been occupied by Russian for a long time
and after the collapse of USSR ,it didn't take its freedom

and Russian attacked it much killing thousands just for calling for freedom ??????????
so some people from chechan and Muslims all over the world go there ,fighting for the independence of chechan.

and u without hurt yourself with just search to know the truth from all sides
is your democracy means attacking people for the sake of attack,for the sake of your point of view (whether it's right or not)

did you hear from them(people who u considered them terrorists)?
i don't think so

you just say islamic terrorism
killers,bla bla bla

ok when u consider Jan dark,the frech resistance against nazism
terrorist,consider chechanian resistance also terrorism

God damn thic goofy thinking
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