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mohamed101
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 Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:16 am Post subject: what? |
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what do you know about jesus??
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Assambar
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:30 am Post subject: What do I know? - almost nothing |
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Well, he was born in the Hanaan lands.
He mastered elementals at a place in Asia, and later became a source of love and faith:) That's in general.
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mohamed101
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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HI assambar do you know that he was prophet or massenger came from allah?? I think you do if you are muslim if not do get me wrong but this is the right way to tell about him. and also do you know that jesus is not the son of the god? he is not.allah send him to tell the people what is right and what is wrong.
ok god bless ya.peace and love
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Assambar
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: Jesus? |
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Hi!
Well, I know that he was what people call a prophet of God. The way you call God doesn't really matter. But he also was a son of God, just as you are and I am and each human being is. But he was also more than that - he was God himself, just as you are and I am and each human being is. As to telling pepople what is right and wrong, no one can tell you this, because you have to know it for yourself. If you do something or don't do another because someone has taught you in this way, then what you are doing is false and untrue. Each and everyone of us must do what we like and want to do. But it needs a deeper thought of understanding to realise the truth;)
Anyway, I will be glad to hear what you have to say.
Oh, and I am not a muslim, neither a christian. I am just a man;)
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Assambar
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: Hey, where are you? |
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Hey,
what happened to you. Did I offend you in a way with my last message?
What do you think about my idea of Jesus. Well, I know it may not be quite right, but I like it. If there is something which, you cannot agree with, just tell me. In my search of truth I always look for whatever may be wrong in my beliefs.
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mohamed101
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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 HI assambar no,but I didn't get time to replay for you so I think your answer is correct. really I don't know much about jesus because am muslim I only know that he was a prophet which is from god(allah) in my religion we believe that jesus is not a son of a god. and he doesn't have a father he just have a mother.so what do you believe in about him?? and my english is not that good so sorry if I wrote some incorect words...
peace and love
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flower
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hello my brother, 
you are right and I want to add some information about "What do Muslims believe about Allah?"
1. He is the one God, Who has no partner.
2. Nothing is like Him. He is the Creator, not created, nor a part of His creation.
3. He is All-Powerful, absolutely just.
4. There is no other entity in the entire universe worthy of worship besides Him.
5. He is First, Last, and Everlasting; He was when nothing was, and will be when nothing else remains.
6. He is the All-Knowing, and All Merciful, the Supreme, the Sovereign.
7. It is only He Who is capable of granting life to anything.
8. He sent His Messengers (peace be upon them) to guide all of mankind.
9. He sent Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the last Prophet and Messenger for all mankind.
10. His book is the Holy Qur'an, the only authentic revealed book in the world that has been kept without change.
11. Allah knows what is in our hearts.
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eme
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Flower, 
Are you a Muslim?
Flower, I feel you are a beautiful girl.
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mohamed101
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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helo every body, first of all let me introduce you my self. am the creater of this topic(what do you know about jesus?) i did this because i want know about what the other people believe in.
as my name showing am muslim my name is mohamed. I believe that juses was a prophet which come from allah(god) he has no father but he got a mother. only allah knows where he is from?.
I don't want to hurt the other people's feeling but this is what am believing. and I think this is the right. jesus is not a son of a god he is not a god too. there is NO other god except ALLAH. allah is the only one who can create something. as our sister flower said allah is the only god in this world..believe it ot NOT. ok every body have a nice day.........
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flower
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| eme wrote: |
Flower,
Are you a Muslim?
Flower, I feel you are a beautiful girl. |
Yes, I am a Muslim.
Well, many people in this forum ask me the same question. I think all people are beautiful. |
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flower
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: what? |
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| mohamed101 wrote: |
| what do you know about jesus?? |
The Story of Jesus, Son of Mary
In relating the story of Jesus, the Qur’an describes how Mary, the mother of Jesus, was approached by an angel from God, bringing her tidings she had never imagined: that she will give birth to a son, a Messiah, who will be of the righteous and will be a prophet of God, calling the Children of Israel (the Israelites) to the straight path of God.
[(And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).
He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous.] (Aal `Imran 3:45-46)
Naturally, for Mary, this news was both strange and seemingly impossible.
[She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel.] (Aal `Imran 3:47-48
The very nature of Jesus is so special, that God compares the uniqueness of his creation to that of the first man and prophet, Adam.
[Lo! The likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.] (Aal `Imran 3:59)
Jesus and His Miracles
Jesus became one of the greatest prophets of God, and was sent to the Children of Israel in order to confirm the teachings of his predecessor, the Prophet Moses. His birth was a miracle, and, like all prophets of God, he was granted several miracles. He approached his people, telling them:
[Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird, by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers.
And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.
Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.] (Aal `Imran 3:49-51)
Jesus’s Followers
The Qur’an continues the story of Jesus by relating several incidents of his life and his disciples.
[But when Jesus became conscious of their disbelief, he cried: Who will be my helpers in the cause of Allah? The disciples said: We will be Allah's helpers. We believe in Allah, and bear thou witness that we have surrendered (unto Him).
Our Lord! We believe in that which Thou hast revealed and we follow him whom Thou hast sent. Enroll us among those who witness (to the truth).] (Aal `Imran 3:52-53)
In another incident, after which an entire surah of the Qur’an is named, the disciples of Jesus asked him for another miracle.
[Behold! the disciples, said: “O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?” Jesus said: “Fear Allah, if ye have faith.”
They said: “We only wish to eat thereof and satisfy our hearts, and to know that thou hast indeed told us the truth; and that we ourselves may be witnesses to the miracle.”
Jesus the son of Mary said: “O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us—for the first and the last of us—a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs).”] (Al-Ma’idah 5:112-114)
God sent them the table they had asked for, but not without a warning.
[Allah said: “I will send it down unto you: But if any of you after that resisteth faith, I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on any one among all the peoples.”] (Al-Ma’idah 5:115)
The End of the Story?
The story of Jesus never really ends in the Qur’an, as we are told that Jesus was not killed, but that rather, God raised his beloved prophet up to him.
[Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
As to those who believe and work righteousness, Allah will pay them (in full) their reward; but Allah loveth not those who do wrong.] (Aal `Imran 3:53-55)
The Qur’an also points out that Jesus was neither killed nor crucified. Speaking of the Children of Israel, Allah faults their accusations against Mary as well as their claim that they killed Jesus.
[That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! Those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.] (An-Nisaa’ 4:156-158)
The Qur’an confirms that Jesus was raised up by God, and the Prophet Muhammad reassured us that Jesus will be sent down to earth once again before the Day of Judgment. In a hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah, the Prophet Muhammad said: “By the One in Whose hand is my self, definitely the son of Maryam will soon descend among you as a just judge, and he will break the cross, kill the pig, and abolish the jizyah (tribute), and wealth will be so abundant that no one will accept it, until a single prostration will be better than the world and everything in it.” (Al-Bukhari) |
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Isaac Sadaqah
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[b]hello
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Assambar
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: Well, I... |
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Hi everybody!
Well, first I would like to ask you to excuse me if I offend you in any way, because I have just a very faint idea about your religion - Islam. But here is the way I think.
In my opinion, it is true that God is only one (well, to me Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, Buddha, Zeus, Marduk or whoever are just names - words invented by man) and he has no name, or at least no name that can be said or heard in the way we usually speak and hear. His true name is something which can only be felt with perceptions that each of us has deep inside but uses not in his daily relations with others.
Actually, what i mean is that God is within each of us and each of us is God himself. Each of us is the "Holy Trinity" (The Soul, The Body, The Spirit) and we are all one. The very problem of mankind, according to me, is that few are those who realize that we are one! All of us! We are not separated, different entities. Just one, single thing. And that one single thing is God. It is neither 'He', nor 'She', nor 'It'. It is not even 'God', but surprisingly people need something which they can perceive, which they can feel straightforward and worship. In old times they chose to worship a Golden Calf, today most people choose to worship a certain name, a certain idea of what God is, and so they miss the way that leads to God.
We all have the dirty habit of looking for things outside ourselves - problems, solutions, the world - all of this we separate from what we are. The same we do with God. But if we just look at ourselves, what will we find there? Will it not be Allah, Jehovah or whomever, only without a name, but standing there, just as we are.
Bye for now,
smile!
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Assambar
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Hey, not again. Where are you all?
Won't somebody disagree?
And tell me where I may be wrong?
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kkid
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Hi! I don't know much about Islam or Christianity, but is it meanful for us to find out who Jesus is? I mean, the important thing is what Jesus, whether a prophet or the son of God, tells us about the world and God.
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