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syoshioka99



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: how to use "either"...questions from JAPAN Reply with quote

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1) Either of the students may fail the exam.

Question: Can the sentence 1) mean "Both of the students may fail the exam."?

2) Either of you is right.

Question: What does this sentence mean? Does it mean like..."Both Tom and Bob is right." or "Only Tom[Bob] is right."?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in 1.) and 2.) either menas both of them
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
I asked about either/both last week. Lotus answered the first part kindly.
here is the last part of my question.

I was wathching a decoration programme and the woman said : " ...you
should sew either sides (or side ;can't remember exactly)of the cushion.
Would it be wrong to use each side here?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

" ...you should sew either side" means to sew only one side,BUT to sew each side means to sew both
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well,
how come either means one?

in all previous examples either meant both Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

either implies "one or the other", if you wanted to sew both sides you'd say both or each, or a word with plural meaning.

either is a conjunction used between two alternatives

Either is an English pronoun, adjective, and conjunction, meaning one, or the other, of two. Its origin is from Old English ǽghwe�er, which literally analyses as a compound word "any - whether."

Either/or means "one, or the other,BUT NOT BOTH
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
thanks for your answer. but in your answer to that japanese guy, you said either meant both.

how come it means one now? ( and the woman in the decorating programme sewed both sides of the cushion)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ab wrote:
" ...you should sew either side" means to sew only one side,BUT to sew each side means to sew both


Hi, ab. I have got a question here.

I have looked up the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English.

In the entry, it says

either side/end/hand etc
both sides, ends, hands etc
rsynonym: each

For instance: He sat in the back of the car with a policeman on either side.

No offence, but if you're correct, why does the dictionary say so?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are things getting chaotic?
everyting started on the 5th Dec like this:

flaps wrote:
hi,

which one is correct and why?

1.there were trees on both sides of the road.

2.there were trees on either side of the road.


lotus wrote:
Hi flaps,

Both are correct and mean basically the same thing. Number looks at the road both sides at the same time. Number 2 looks at the road one side at a time.

Often in English, you choose how you say something because of subtle differences in meaning. Number 1 looks at the road as whole, whereas number 2 looks at the road one side at a time, perhaps not expecting trees on BOTH sides of the road.


--lotus



flaps wrote:
I either say thanks a lot or thank you very much Smile

just remembered another thing. I was wathching a decoration programme and the woman said : " ...you should sew either sides (or side ;can't remember exactly)of the cushion." Would it be wrong to use each side here?


flaps wrote:
hi,
I asked about either/both last week. Lotus answered the first part kindly.
here is the last part of my question.

I was wathching a decoration programme and the woman said : " ...you
should sew either sides (or side ;can't remember exactly)of the cushion.
Would it be wrong to use each side here?



and then tochigi asked about the same thing and now it said that either means one. I'm really confused Crying or Very sad Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the original Question was:
Question: What does this sentence mean? Does it mean like..."Both Tom and Bob is right." or "Only Tom[Bob] is right."?

the question refered to this sentence:
1) Either of the students may fail the exam.

Like i said in the very first response i sent to this post, the statement "Either of the students may fail the exam" means that both Tom and Bob may fail.
The question asked who was likely to fail, NOT WHAT DOES EITHER mean.

Keep trying "Flas", it will all make sense before to long
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well ab,

I guess you don't wanna talk about this anymore but I am never satisfied until everyting is crystal clear in my mind, sorry.

lotus's answers to my questions prove that either (when used with words like side, case etc) means both. I'm not talking about either... or... structure.
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