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RedRose
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| ClarissaMach wrote: |
RedRose, I believe your daughter not only is straight, but is also very smart too 
Can people in China have four children? When I was a child I was told that Chinese were only allowed to have one son/daughter. Was it true? Or was it only a strong recommendation? |
thank you.
a couple in China ain't allowed to have more than one baby, that's what we call family plan policy
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ClarissaMach
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Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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But what happens if a married woman gets pregnant a second time? Can she have an abortion? Or should she gave the second child to adoption or something like this?
And what if the mother decides to have and keep the second baby? May the couple be arrested?
And what if people get divorced? Can a man decide to have another child with a new wife? Can a woman decide to have another child with a new husband? I mean, the number of children is limited per couple, per man or per woman?
Please, answer me! I'm eager to know how things work out in your country! It's so different from mine!
Abortion is forbidden in Brazil. People have lots of children, specially the poor ones, and most of the time these parents don't have money enough to bring up so many children....
They don't have so many children because they want, they do it simply because they're irresponsible or don't know how to prevent pregnancy.
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RedRose
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| ClarissaMach wrote: |
But what happens if a married woman gets pregnant a second time? Can she have an abortion? Or should she gave the second child to adoption or something like this?
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if a married woman gets pregant with her second baby, she has to go to hospital to take an abortion. if the mother decides to have and keep the second baby,she is gonna lose her job, and if she has no job, she and her husband will be punished in another way, such as being amerced, or her Fallopian tube or her husband's spermaduct will be cut by some surgical operation.
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| And what if people get divorced? Can a man decide to have another child with a new wife? Can a woman decide to have another child with a new husband? I mean, the number of children is limited per couple, per man or per woman? |
a divorced man who got a kid already from his ex-wife, can get a new baby with a new wife as long as the new wife dosen't have her own baby, but if she has one baby from her ex-, then they can't have a new baby baby. so dose a divorced woman.
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| Abortion is forbidden in Brazil. People have lots of children, specially the poor ones, and most of the time these parents don't have money enough to bring up so many children.... |
here in China, there is such an intelligent saying:"the more kids you got, the poorer you are getting; the poorer you are, the more kids you want."
that is a vicious circle, absolutely.
Some western countries like US once condemned China for China's family plan policy. facing such a blame, DengXiaoPin asked US's leader:"how many people do you want? I can give you as many as possible, as long as you can raise them." that leader didn't say anything.
Yeah, some naive people always say:"China isn't demicratic! there are no human rights in China!" sigh! it sounds like they can solve all China's prblems with their so-called democracy!!!  that's soooo silly! we have our own problem as other countries do, and we have our own solution that suits for our own case! why should we totally learn everything from some advanced country?
Some silly people always hope that every grass looks exactly the same in a garden, and that's very ridiculous and impossible and childish!
BTW, ClarissaMach, when I mentioned "naive, silly, childish people", I didn't mean you at all. |
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ClarissaMach
Joined: 18 May 2006
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Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| RedRose wrote: |
Yeah, some naive people always say:"China isn't demicratic! there are no human rights in China!" sigh! it sounds like they can solve all China's prblems with their so-called democracy!!! :lol: that's soooo silly! we have our own problem as other countries do, and we have our own solution that suits for our own case! why should we totally learn everything from some advanced country?
Some silly people always hope that every grass looks exactly the same in a garden, and that's very ridiculous and impossible and childish!
BTW, ClarissaMach, when I mentioned "naive, silly, childish people", I didn't mean you at all. |
It was not necessary to say so, RedRose. I know that "naive, silly, childish people" wasn't directed to me, cause in any moment I said anything against the way you Chinese run your family plan policy. All I wanted was to understand the way you deal with this issue and think about the differences in the way we deal with it in Brazil.
Besides, I agree with you that no one out of China should interfere in the way you deal with this question, unless he/she was invited to do so. I believe that no one understands a country's problems and demands more than her citizens. Moreover, I truly believe that if Chinese themselves were disatisfied with the way their Government run their lives, it wouldn't have last so many years (half a century); Chinese themselves, I believe, would have made a new revolution to make things change; it would be just a question of time.
Now, talking about the cultural differences between our nations: the idea of obliging a woman to make an abortion is simply inconceavable in Brazil. I myself must admmit that I was shocked when I read what you've said. Please, understand that by saying this I'm not criticizing or comdemning the way you Chinese choose to do things, for I know you have your own reasons; I'm just being honest and, in a certain way, I'm showing the way a person born and raised in a catholic latin-american country feels about it. You see, I have no religion, but I can't help feeling that doing an abortion is the same of killing a defenseless child; I probably feels this way because I was raised in a catholic family. Besides, abortion is forbidden in Brazil. Lots of women do it in an illegal way, but I think that even if there was an election on the subject to decide if it should be legalized or not, it would still be set illegal.
Here, in Brazil, everybody usually have at least two children; when someone has only one child, he/she is slightly criticized by the others for his/her option (they won't be exactly criticized, but I belive that more than once during their lifetime someone will ask them: "why did you choose to have only one kid?"). Well, nothing would go wrong if people decided to have two or even three kids (like my parents did!). The problem is that some people (usually the poor ones) have five or six kids, and they have no conditions to provide these children good health care and education.
Now, let me take a doubt about these words of yours:
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| And what if people get divorced? Can a man decide to have another child with a new wife? Can a woman decide to have another child with a new husband? I mean, the number of children is limited per couple, per man or per woman? |
a divorced man who got a kid already from his ex-wife, can get a new baby with a new wife as long as the new wife dosen't have her own baby, but if she has one baby from her ex-, then they can't have a new baby baby. so does a divorced woman. |
So it means that men can have lots of children, as long as they marry chidless women and have only one child with each one of them; but women, once they have a child, can never do it again, right?
Or has a woman the right to leave her first child behind and have another child with a childless man?
BTW, are women who decide to have more than one child discriminated by the rest of society? And what about those who have children out of wedlock? Are they condemned, too?
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RedRose
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a woman also can have many babies as long as she marries childless men one by one. in this respect, women and men are equal.
if an unmarried person give birth to a baby, she/he has to be punished too. the punishment is similar to the one when a married person has two kids. besides, the invisible pressure from society will kill him/her.
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| BTW, are women who decide to have more than one child discriminated by the rest of society? |
No, society and people wouldn't discriminate her. |
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ClarissaMach
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Thanks for all your answers. That's what I call "learning about another culture".
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RedRose
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| ClarissaMach wrote: |
| Thanks for all your answers. That's what I call "learning about another culture". |
I guess you have put some picture as your avatar, but anyway, I can't see it. I guess this picture is your photo, right?
and maybe you quoted an unavailable website which didn't support hot link.
we wanna see your picture, and may I recommend you some available website? go here:
http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=register&error=4
this site supports hot link |
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