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asterix
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To state a fact: i.e. That to conquer a nation of 20 million with the loss of only 2500 troops is an unbelievably successful war. Is not to applaud it.
Personally, I think the Americans missed the boat, back in the 70's, when OPEC reared its ugly head, and should have immediately started developing alternative fuels. They're quite capable of it, but the political will was not there.
As far as Iraq is concerned, they should have stayed at home and let the Iraqis go to hell their own way. |
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asterix
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Koran 17:16-17
When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants |
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Outofin
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Outofin,
Are you saying that the Koran permits Muslims of one sect to kill those of any other sect?
Are you Muslim? |
No I wasn't saying anything about Muslims because I don't know about. I was asking. The quote below made me a impression that they're not allowed to kill their own people but allowed to kill others. I wasn't sure so I asked.
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I guess it's politically incorrect to ask the question, but it occurs to me all the time, too: Why is it that the followers of Islam do not condemn the murder of Muslims by Muslims?
If American Presbyterians and Baptists were pulling each other out of cars and shooting them dead for their beliefs, I'm pretty sure somebody would say, "Hey, that's wrong. That's against the Bible, not to mention against the law and incredibly stupid." |
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Anuradha Chepur
Joined: 20 May 2006
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Actually we have to wait and see.
It depends on the long term results as to how future generations will get to read about Bush in their History books.
Let's hope for the best. . . |
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ieltsinsider
Joined: 16 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: sects |
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To answer the question about why Muslims often do not appear to condemn violence, one of the main reasons is that there is no central authority for Islam.
I agree with asterix that the West missed a chance to develop alternative fuel sources. However, now that the price of oil is at an all-time high, I am hopeful that alternative sources will be developed. |
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k.m.m
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:14 am Post subject: Re: sects |
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| ieltsinsider wrote: |
To answer the question about why Muslims often do not appear to condemn violence, one of the main reasons is that there is no central authority for Islam.
I agree with asterix that the West missed a chance to develop alternative fuel sources. However, now that the price of oil is at an all-time high, I am hopeful that alternative sources will be developed. |
ieltsinsider:
I think I mentioned the main source before..I.O.C. based in Jeddah,KSA ..for more ,see this link:http://www.muhajabah.com/islamicblog/archives/veiled4allah/010267.php
Also ,please keep in mined that when a nation "any nation" or a country in war or conflict by others , religions' people come to the top service or became active ...this is a fact ..we remember in Europe for Christians ...and for Jews every time we read A FATWA about some thing "Islam and Judaism "has so many Fatwa.
look at this :
The Vatican
A Halachic injunction
Question
Is it forbidden to visit the Vatican , even if one does not enter the churches? Moshe
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There is an explicit, unequivocal prohibition on entering churches. The Vatican is a place entirely made of churches and a site of pagan worship. Thus, in my opinion, you should not visit it because you will not be able to help falling into pagan worship.
Rabbi Meir Nehorai
source www.kipa.co.il dated May 17 2004
other Fatwa:
Men and women playing tennis
By: Halachic injunction issued by Rabbi Shmuel Zafrani
Question
I wanted to ask the rabbi if it is permissible for men and women to play tennis together or in mixed doubles?
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Greetings and thanks to the questioner. In principle, tennis is a good thing and useful for one's physical health. But it is forbidden to play with women, whether in singles or doubles, even if there is no fearing of touching her and even if she wears modest clothing while playing (which will never happen). Just men and women playing together is forbidden because in so doing, the man commits many sins, which need not be listed here as they are obvious. It is well known that modesty and sanctity are the basis of Judaism and the pride of the community.
With my warm regards,
Shmuel Zafrani
www.kipa.co.il
March 18, 2004
Greeting women
By: Halachic injunction issued by Rabbi Shmuel Zafrani
Question
Greetings and happy holidays to the rabbi. I know that in accordance with simple Jewish law (as far as I know, this is the ruling of the great rabbi of the Beit Yosef), it is forbidden for a man to greet a woman. I just want to clarify some points: 1) Is the word �shalom� the problem? Or is it also forbidden to ask �how are you?� 2) What do I do when a woman greets me? 3) What should we do in our daily life in a secular milieu? As far as I know, it is impossible (and disrespectful) to turn to a female employee, for example, and ask something of her as if she is a robot, i.e., �I want A, B, and C.� I must begin by greeting her and asking her how she is before I get to the point. Thank you in advance.
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Greetings, Ofer. I know nothing about the Beit Yosef injunction that forbids greeting women. One is allowed to greet women, but is forbidden to ask how they are. For example, it is forbidden to ask, �How are you?� or for one to ask a woman's husband, �How is your wife?� Our exegesis tells us that it is permissible for a man to ask another man, �My wife asks how your wife is.� Thus, if by greeting, you mean the question, �How are you?� this is forbidden. But it is acceptable to say hello.
My warmest regards,
Shmuel Zafrani
www.kipa.co.il dated March 20,2004
we have to remember that so many Fatwa also by some radical Muslim that doesn't make sense and not acceptable at all ...
also we have to remember that POLITCS all the time roll.
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asterix
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And all this nonsense is supposed to matter to God?
Give your head a shake people! |
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ieltsinsider
Joined: 16 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: none |
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| k.m.m. - I know you mentioned the IOC, but it has no teeth. |
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k.m.m
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| Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: none |
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| ieltsinsider wrote: |
| k.m.m. - I know you mentioned the IOC, but it has no teeth. |
Yes ..and hands also ..same as united nation . but it is not supporting terrorist .At least it is the voice of all Muslim.
I think every country "government" is responsible for any mufti inside its own land, except those who work behind the keyboard or in ToraBora or living in other country and taking advantage of its democracy such as "some sick group in London".
Who support terrorists attack on civilians from any group or any nation will face the law.Quran is clear on that..
Most of who support alqaeda are in the jail or got killed by police this what I know at least in my country.
Do you know any mufti "by name and location" who support killing people from any religion" or supporting alqaeda, please let me know.waiting!! |
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ieltsinsider
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| Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: none |
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| The IOC may be the voice of many Muslims, but certainly not all - Al Qaeda? |
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k.m.m
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| Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:46 am Post subject: Re: none |
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| ieltsinsider wrote: |
| The IOC may be the voice of many Muslims, but certainly not all - Al Qaeda? |
Al QAEDAH hate all Muslims, their only voice is violence and killing which is a gainst Quran.
Who support them IS the enemy of Islam.
Muslims are the most effected and more victim than others by al qaead...(that what Mr. Bush will speak a bout it in his speech next week on 11/ September memorial day.)
take care.
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Anuradha Chepur
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| Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: |
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KMM, I agree with you.
Along with the rest of the world, it�s the average muslim too who is paying for the terror acts of their brethren. Muslims are surely having a tough time clearing security checks in airports. Recently many innocent muslims (from India) were suspected and detained at Poland and eventually released. We can imagine the plight of their family members. In India, modern day muslim couples are giving Hindu names to their children, so that they won�t be discriminated against. |
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welkins2139
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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I think only the people in Iraq can you give a better answer. I am not here. I really do not know. But some media said Iraw is closed to civil war. Then it is very bad. Brothers kill brothers. It is very ugly war. It is the worst war, in my opinion.
I dont get it. Why don't they put out their little difference and work out togehter, building a better place for all of them.
Why sectarians hate each other? I do not get it. |
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ieltsinsider
Joined: 16 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: Kurdistan |
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| Well, the inevitable has started to happen. The Kurds are getting ready to declare themselves independent. (The Kurdish flag is being raised in place of or alongside the Iraqi flag.) |
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