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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Whom Must We Worship Reply with quote

hi every body:

I bear witness that there is no deity except Allah, Who has no partner, and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger >and in Arabi: (a shhadu an la illaha illa Allah, wahdahu la sharikah lahu wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu wa rasulahu).
Through this very basic and simple testimony, I believe many people will submit to Allah in spirit and truth>

if you do not believe me ask yourself why do yuo say (my God).when you face disaster?
just close your eyes and say allah and see the reaction of your heart.Surely you will fell with comfort. Surprised Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: Whom Must We Worship Reply with quote

good wrote:
hi every body:

I bear witness that there is no deity except Allah, Who has no partner, and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger >and in Arabi: (a shhadu an la illaha illa Allah, wahdahu la sharikah lahu wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu wa rasulahu).
Through this very basic and simple testimony, I believe many people will submit to Allah in spirit and truth>

if you do not believe me ask yourself why do yuo say (my God).when you face disaster?

Most people dont say Allah when faced with disaster only Muslims, Allah is the arabic god not the rest of the worlds

good wrote:

just close your eyes and say allah and see the reaction of your heart.Surely you will fell with comfort. Surprised Smile

Why dont you try and close your eyes and say Khrishna and come back and tell us how it went.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok.plrase read the following lines:
The submission of man to His Creator is the essence of Islam. The name �Islam� is chosen by God (Allah) and not by man. It is the same unifying Message revealed to all the Prophets and Messengers by Allah and which they spread amongst their respective nations. In its Final form it was revealed to Muhammad (Peace & Mercy of Allah be upon him) as a complete Message to whole mankind. The Lord, Allah, is the True and Only Creator that deserves to be worshipped. No worship is worthy of being given to a stone, statue, a cross, a triangle, Khomeini, Farakhan, Eliajahs, Malcom�s X or Y, Ghandi, Krishna, Guru, Buddha, Mahatma, Emperor, Joseph Smith, Sun, Moon (not to that from Korea too!), Light, Fire, rivers, cows, Rama, Temples, Prophets, Messengers (Yes! Muslims do not worship Muhammad-peace be upon him), Saints, Priests, Monks, Movie Stars, Sheiks, etc.!!! All are created beings or things.
ALLAH, is the Name of the One True God. His Name is not chosen by man and does not have a number or gender. It is known that Allah is the Name of God in Aramaic, the language of our beloved Prophet Jesus and a sister language of Arabic. The Name �Allah� has been used by all previous Prophets starting with Adam and by the last and final Prophet, Muhammad (Peace be upon them all).
The Innate Nature in man recognizes what is good and bad, what is true and false. It recognizes that the Attributes of Allah must be True, Unique, and All-Perfect. It does not feel comfortable towards any kind of degradation of His Attributes not does it qualities to the Creator. Many who became �discontent with God� did so because of the practices of the Church in medieval Europe and because of the claims of �god dwelling in a son� and the concept of the �original sin�. However, they �escaped� into worshipping a new theory called �mother nature� as well as the �material� World. With the advancement of materialistic technology others from different religions adopted the concept of �forgetting about God� and �let us live this life and enjoy it!�, not realizing that they have chosen the worship of the �original god� of Rome: Desire!.As a result the �enjoyment� is turning to �suffering� from AIDS.


NOW we can see that all of this materialistic and secular progress produced a spiritual vacuum that led to complex social, economical, political, and psychological problems. Many of those who �fled� their �religions� are in search again. Some try to �escape� the complexity of their daily lives via various means. Those who had the chance to examine the Qur�an and Islam, proceed with a complete way of life that relates man to establish a purpose for his presence on earth. This is well recognized in the Attributes of Allah and what does He require from man. He does not want man to be enslaved to any false deity: nature, drugs, lust, money, other man, desire, or sex. He provides man with the proofs that He is the One who can redeem so that man can free himself from the slavery to any form of creation and to turn to his Creator Alone. THIS Creator Has Perfect Attributes. He is the First, nothing is before Him, the Ever Living. To Him is the Final Return where everyone will be dealt with in the Most Perfect and Just way. He does not begot nor He is begotten. Those who attribute Divinity to Jesus forget or ignore the fact that Jesus was in a mother�s womb. He needed nutrition; he was born and grew up to be a man. He was trusted with the Gospel as a Message to the Children of Israel: �For there is One God, and one mediator (i.e. a messenger) between God and men (the Children of Israel), the man Christ Jesus) (I Timothy 2:5). A man-messenger calling his nation not to worship him: �But in vain they do worship me!� (Mathew 15:9). A man who needs to eat, walk, sleed, rest, etc.. cannot have Divine Attributes because he is in need and God (Allah) is Self-Sufficient.
AS far as Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Marxism, and Capitalism, there is the devotion of worshipping created being/things in one form or another. Jews had attributed a �Nationalistic� belonging to Allah. They labeled Him �The Tribal God� for the Children of Israel. Men and women following these �religions� were born with the natural inclination of submission to their Creator, Allah. It is their parents who had driven them into their respective traditions. However, once people are exposed to the Signs of Allah around them, or in the Qur�an or to someone who triggers thei Fitra (natural inclination to worship Allah Alone), the reverting process begins and that is why we see a universal spreading of Islam. In the West and despite tha many distortions of Islam in the Media, many admit that Islam may be the fastest growing Faith. No sense of fairness can be achieved without a genuine attempt to know the Word of Allah in the Qur�an and not on the 30-min-Evening News. This is the real challenge for those who seek the Truth. Man is created for a purpose: to live a life in accordance with Allah�s way. Why Not? Do we posses the air we breath? Did we create ourselves or others? Or were we ourselves the Creators? We are limited and weak. So is our right to ignore our Creator where we all need Him?
ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur�an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur�an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come you feel it necessary to post a mugshot of that a s s hole Mohammed Atta?
Are you proud of the fact that he killed so many innocent people?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pugachevV wrote:
How come you feel it necessary to post a mugshot of that a s s hole Mohammed Atta?
Are you proud of the fact that he killed so many innocent people?


Why?..because i can. Would you rather i post a picture of your mother on here?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you proud of the fact that he killed so many innocent people?




ok.can you give me an example that prove that mohammed killed so many innocent people?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good wrote:
As a result the �enjoyment� is turning to �suffering� from AIDS.


Must every sickness, epidemic, natural disaster, terrorist attack, or other catastrophe be a result of people doing things that are somehow against some god? Why can't hurricanes and illnesses just happen? I don't deny the existance of God, but it's all too common for religious zealots to blame victims for their circumstances in this way.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's good to establish an institution which analyses the historical background of every culture and tell it to the whole world.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

admiral wrote:
It's good to establish an institution which analyses the historical background of every culture and tell it to the whole world.


well thats ok, but don't expect it to come from the Islamic world, they deny history before 500AD. They dont recognize any culture other than Islam.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least people could try to be more optimistic, or it would end in your opinion and nothing will happen unless hatred.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as you said (well thats ok, but don't expect it to come from the Islamic world, they deny history before 500AD. They dont recognize any culture other than Islam), you are surely wrong,wrong wrong Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good wrote:
as you said (well thats ok, but don't expect it to come from the Islamic world, they deny history before 500AD. They dont recognize any culture other than Islam), you are surely wrong,wrong wrong Laughing
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No im right, and by the way, your thread should have been entitled,

Whom we must worship(if you have no brain)

or

Whom we must worship (if you are born into a repressive muslim country where you have no choice)

or

Whom you must worship (if you are born into a Muslim family)

or

Whom you must worship (if you want to marry a Muslim)

Pls stop pushing your religion on us with silly threads like these, dont tell us who we must worship, those who have a choice would never choose your fake religion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I swear that Islam,Quran and Muhammed told us to replay to those who insult and curse us in apolite way and to not do the same as they do in cursing others,so thank you.I want to tell you that we know the history of life from the begining to the last,from the first creation of allah we know every thing from the holy Quran Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good wrote:
I swear that Islam,Quran and Muhammed told us to replay to those who insult and curse us in apolite way and to not do the same as they do in cursing others,so thank you.I want to tell you that we know the history of life from the begining to the last,from the first creation of allah we know every thing from the holy Quran Smile


Thats why you all know so little, as you never read anything else.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's leave it by now
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