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samatar dualeh
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 Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:45 am Post subject: Taiwan is part of China. |
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| I don't Agree the people who believe Taiwan is independent country.I think same culture,same land, same people.if you guys have more explain. |
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steven01092002
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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If u think Taiwan is part of China because they have the same culture and same language, then how about America? America and England have the same language and culture also. And earlest Americans were came from the England too. So is America a part of England? y America can owned independence and Taiwan can't just because Taiwan is an island? Think about it!!  |
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chenweijian
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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firstly, i am a chinese, in my opinion, i agree that TAIWAN should be a part of china. it's not because we 've been educated patrioticly, but it's bucause historically TAIWAN was a part of china since the acient time. CHINESE mainland and Taiwan was closely related to each other, you can check the history book if you want.  |
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mango_lover
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Taiwan is part of China. |
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| samatar dualeh wrote: |
| I don't Agree the people who believe Taiwan is independent country.I think same culture,same land, same people.if you guys have more explain. |
Dream on biotch. Taiwan is not part of China. we have our own government, national antheme, culture, economy, and military force.
I want you all to think about this. When a group of CHINESE, yes they are chinese and from China (I can not and will not deny that),came to Taiwan in the 1950's. They stayed here. Thier kids, grandchildren are now TAIWANESE. Why? THey live in the land where we call TAIWAN.
Another arguement I have is this. I am now a Canadian citizen, however I am proud to be taiwanese. As most Canadian and American know, their ancestor are from england, but when you ask them who they are, they will answer "I am Canadian or American" This is same issue as Taiwan, it's just that Canadian and American history goes back to the 1800, while Taiwan's history goes back to the mid 1900.
I am taiwnese and proud to be one. I will not deny that my great grandparents are from China. However, time has change. Drop your f*cking thoughts about �the-Taiwan-is-China�s-province� bullsh!t, cause you know what? Taiwan ain't part of China. We are an independant country that has the economy to survive in this world
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Friedrich
Joined: 20 May 2006
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Location: Taiwan
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I support your viewpoint, mango_lover
but let's stop arguing this issue
Can we talk about Great Cultural Revolution in China(1966~1976)?
It has been 30 years since its ending. In Taiwan, some scholars are talking about this historical event. |
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mango_lover
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: |
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thank you for supoorting me
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Friedrich
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Well, as a Taiwanese, I have to do something for my homeland.
But this issue always bring unhappiness to each other.
Anyway ,I created a topic in Current News called"About Cultural Revolution in China(1966~1976)". You may visit it.  |
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hunan
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: Re: Taiwan is part of China. |
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| sorry to interrupt, but i have to make one thing clear, that is histoically and practically speaking, Taiwan would never be independent. Befor you so-called Taiwanese people mention your hatred towards China, i think you should first of all compare these two places and you will find which one is more advanced and China is totally different from what you think it is about. |
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mango_lover
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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30 years ago..who is more advance? Taiwan 
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TJ
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| 政治斗争无比残酷 |
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wendyhill
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: Taiwan independent? |
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| the world is always changing, we can't stop that. If people are happy with the government they have they should be allowed to keep it. |
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jarodlovely
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Politics is the most ugly invention ever for it creates discremination, hatred, and seperation. Actually, people don't have to care about which government and jurisdiction they belong to, instead, as long as they are well-fed and can have the opportunities to fullfil their value to the society, they can live happily together. That's the global community we shoud seek, isn't it?
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BourneNOIR
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| jarodlovely wrote: |
| Politics is the most ugly invention ever for it creates discremination, hatred, and seperation. Actually, people don't have to care about which government and jurisdiction they belong to, instead, as long as they are well-fed and can have the opportunities to fullfil their value to the society, they can live happily together. That's the global community we shoud seek, isn't it? |
Absolutely, and that's the current status quo now. It doesn't matter if it's independent or not, as long as the people will have a better life. (Official independence will certainly allow Taiwan to perform better in the international community, but at a risk of hostility from China - unless China sees the advantage of improved cooperation and alliance between the two countries)
Note to mainlanders: Taiwanese does NOT hate China - otherwise we'd stop trade, tourism, economic cooperation, etc. with China. Taiwanese DO hate to be ruled by Communist government and have less freedom (such as censorship, and government controlled media, etc.) than we do now. I have friends from mainland China and we never let politics get in the way of our friendship.
However, one can tell from previous posts that some mainland Chinese ALWAYS argue against independence. Does it actually make their life any better or worse if Taiwan is independent or not? They argue that it was "historically" part of China, as if the world ever stopped changing political boundaries, as if they can suddenly become wealthy if Taiwan is part of China. Ever heard of the saying "話說天下大勢，分久必合，合久必分" (The world under heaven, after a long period of division, tends to unite; after a long period of union, tends to divide)? Mongolia was historically part of China, so was USA part of Great Britain. What's the argument there? Those people should just forget politics, drop nationalistic pride, and think about BOTH sides of the issue rationally. |
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jarodlovely
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When talking about people, emotional bond comes first...When talking about politic, interest comes first...I'd like to visit Taiwan someday but it's impossible now since the tense between mainland and Taiwan. The politic has already stood in the way of the friendship between us and no doubt it's a pity...
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BourneNOIR
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jarodlovely wrote: |
| When talking about people, emotional bond comes first...When talking about politic, interest comes first...I'd like to visit Taiwan someday but it's impossible now since the tense between mainland and Taiwan. The politic has already stood in the way of the friendship between us and no doubt it's a pity... |
That's not true. Politics is a factor only if you're a politican and politicans are the ones who are making it a big deal.
There are many mainland Chinese who visit Taiwan every year for the pure purpose of site-seeing and vice versa. I don't see how politics will make it impossible for you to visit Taiwan or me to visit China (I actually am planning to go in a year or so, once I have enough vacation time from work). Politics is something that the government imposes on its people, but in a democratic society like the US and Taiwan, the will of the people is much stronger because people are able to exercise the freedom of speech to a much greater extent and think on their own. |
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