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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Should I? Reply with quote

Today my daughter, a 8-year-old girl asked me to buy her a mobile phone, and she had a lot of reasons. I summed them up, here are all her own reasons.

1. she should keep a mobile phone so that she can contact with her classmates conveniently.

2. she felt like a grown-up already, and a grown-up is supposed to have a mobile phone, and that's a symbol of be an adult. I asked her:"why do you feel like a grown-up? you are just a kid!" she answered:"although I am just 8, but I never ask stupid questions as other kids do, when I want you to buy me something, I ask you calmly, without crying out loud, unlike those children. and I work hard at my lesson as adults work hard at their job...so I don't think I am still a kid."

3. she wants a mobile phone so that she can make sure her mom is ok anytime Laughing (sounds like I was her daughter Laughing )

4. she will return the money of paying for the mobile phone to me when she gets a job in the future.


Frankly, I squeaked myself from laughing while she told all about her reasons. but now I think maybe I really should buy her a mobile phone.

But I just worry... maybe this phone will affect her lesson, maybe she won't concentrate on her study.

another dilemma.
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ieltsinsider



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: none Reply with quote

At risk of getting into yet another pointless argument with you, how would having a mobile phone affect her lessons?
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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: none Reply with quote

ieltsinsider wrote:
At risk of getting into yet another pointless argument with you, how would having a mobile phone affect her lessons?


Don't worry. I have fun discussing with you...and teasing you Laughing , although your posts are always pointless. maybe that's where the fun from Laughing

For your information, there are some electronic games in the mobile phone, and that might make a kid game-addicted, don't you know? Very Happy
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garfield_jesse



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your daughter is sooo cute. What lovely reasons! So intelligent lesson that you couldnt refuse her.

I think it's too soon to buy her a cell phone. She is still 8 years old. Unnecessary.
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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garfield_jesse wrote:
Your daughter is sooo cute. What lovely reasons! So intelligent lesson that you couldnt refuse her.

I think it's too soon to buy her a cell phone. She is still 8 years old. Unnecessary.


thanks, jesse, yeah, she is cute and naughty, sometimes she drives me nuts Laughing

I remember, last year, she made a mistake-----> she messed around in her class, and her teacher told me on phone, I still can recall how furious her teacher was at that moment. after she came back home, I kept chattering to her, finally, she was fed up, and she said:"mom, if you stop chattering right now, I am going to forgive you." Laughing

and yes, I don't think it is a nice idea to buy her a cell phone right now. after all, she is so young.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garfield_jesse wrote:
Your daughter is sooo cute. What lovely reasons! So intelligent lesson that you couldnt refuse her.


Garfield_jesse has stolen my words! HAHAHA! She's too cute!

You're lucky, RedRose. My daughter is only three and everytime she's watching the Discovery Kids channel, she asks me to buy everything she sees at the commercials ("Mummy, would you buy me that doll? "Mummy, would you buy me that kids dish-washer?).

I already told her it's not correct to ask me to buy everything she sees on TV. Do you know what is her strategy now?:

"Mummy, I don't want you to buy me that doll. (staring at the d-amn doll. . .).

There's a Brazilian poet that says:

"Kids. You'd better not to have them. But if you don't have them, how can you know then?"


But now, answering the question. . . well, if a cell phone is as cheap as it is here in Brazil, I don't see why you should not buy it. (Oh my. . . am I an irresponsible mother? I hope I'm not!).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClarissaMach wrote:
I already told her it's not correct to ask me to buy everything she sees on TV. Do you know what is her strategy now?:

"Mummy, I don't want you to buy me that doll. (staring at the d-amn doll. . .).


hahahahahaha!!!! kids always crack us up like that!!

She wanted that doll, but she said she didn't Laughing Laughing Laughing and she knew she would finally intererate you so she still could get her way Very Happy Very Happy
No wonder people think a kid is a combination of angel and devil Exclamation

Clarissa, your daughter is just 3 years old, then you still can enjoy a lot of fun she will bring you during her childhood. however, after she is over 10 years old, the childish fun will get less and less.

Many people think that the reason why we raise kids is that we want them to take care of us when we are old. and that's supposed to a return from kid do parents. but I disagree about the saying. frankly, I don't wanna bother her with my oldness, bad health, etc, in the future. I raise kid, one hand, because I love her, on the other hand, she has already returned me with the amazing childish fun!

Back to the question: I can afford the mobile phone, but I just worry that the electronic games in the phone might affect her lessons. as you know, kids might take to the electronic games without thinking of her lessons. that's the problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love children soooooooo much, I can play with them all day. I sometimes confused when they told me some complicated questions Question . The kid of neighbour said that when he is grow up he will get married with me becoz i often buy sweet and taking him going out Laughing

I want to have baby in the future but i'm aslo afraid of hurting when i have a baby Laughing Laughing . My close friend said that the feeling to give a birth to a boy/girl was horrible Sad . She now have 2 kids and they are so cute as your child. I'm really interested in them. I wish i could meet RedRose's child and ClarissaMarch' child Very Happy too.

How about the feeling when you become a mother? Can you tell me more about your children?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garfield_jesse wrote:
I love children soooooooo much, I can play with them all day. I sometimes confused when they told me some complicated questions Question . The kid of neighbour said that when he is grow up he will get married with me becoz i often buy sweet and taking him going out Laughing

I want to have baby in the future but i'm aslo afraid of hurting when i have a baby Laughing Laughing . My close friend said that the feeling to give a birth to a boy/girl was horrible Sad . She now have 2 kids and they are so cute as your child. I'm really interested in them. I wish i could meet RedRose's child and ClarissaMarch' child Very Happy too.

How about the feeling when you become a mother? Can you tell me more about your children?


jesse, I am sure that you will be a great mom in the future.

However, you have to be ready before you deside to have a baby. for example, you must know that most of kids are truble-makers, they would love to ruin your clean house; sometimes they would pour some binder into your Perfume bottles; they would remove your paper of speech when you are unware, and when you start to give your students a class, you will absolutely find nothing in your Notes folder, so you must have a great memory(BTW, that happened to me for many times, a few years ago). now I am proud to say that I don't need any paper of speech for my class. Because I don't know when she will remove my paper of speech, so I have to remember all content of the class in my mind.... it might take so long to describe what a terrible truble-maker a kid is!

Now, do you still wanna become a mom? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is great!

Now i'm really wanna become a mom like you. Very Happy . What you told about your daughter is so attractive. I dont know how to describe my feeling about you and your daughter. I'm interested in stories about your daughter now Evil or Very Mad . Can you tell me more??? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell her you found a special childrens' mobile phone for good children like her.

It only calls parents, and it has no games.

See if she still wants a mobile phone. haha!
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beancurdturtle wrote:
Tell her you found a special childrens' mobile phone for good children like her.
It only calls parents, and it has no games.
See if she still wants a mobile phone. haha!
Isn't there a phone like that now on the market already? I heard some company is making phones for kids that includes GPS locators so parents can know where their child is, and the parent can lock the phonebook and control what numbers get remembered.

But I'm with you, Rose. I trust your mother's instinct.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beancurdturtle wrote:
Tell her you found a special childrens' mobile phone for good children like her.

It only calls parents, and it has no games.

See if she still wants a mobile phone. haha!


She is 8 already, so she is not so gullible Laughing

Bob wrote:
Isn't there a phone like that now on the market already? I heard some company is making phones for kids that includes GPS locators so parents can know where their child is, and the parent can lock the phonebook and control what numbers get remembered.


I wish!
But we don't have such mobile phone in China. so I told her that she couldn't buy a mobile phone until she's 17.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: sorry, can't resist pointing this out! Reply with quote

Chinese kids playing with mobile phones in class? But I thought they were all little angels who studied hard all the time! China is soooo competitive ... in terms of people playing on their mobile phones ....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: sorry, can't resist pointing this out! Reply with quote

ieltsinsider wrote:
Chinese kids playing with mobile phones in class? But I thought they were all little angels who studied hard all the time! China is soooo competitive ... in terms of people playing on their mobile phones ....


haha! I hope you would feel better after abreacting your frustration that way. that's good one Wink

ieltsinsider, believe or not, I really feel sorry about your anger. I hope I can do something to relieve all your pain.

Yeah, Chinese kids are angels like all other kids in the world. however, since they are kids, they don't exactly know what's right behavior and what isn't. they need parents to tell them what to do or not to do. and that's what parents for. parents shouldn't spoil kids.

What a simple truth! do you even have a problem to know the truth?

To be honest, everyday, I have to tell you what's right and what isn't , since you have a problem to understand many easy phenomena. so I feel very responsible.

when did we start exchanging our posts? I don't remember exactly, but... from then on, I have felt responsible to you. I just worry, without my instruction, you might do something more ridiculous which would cause damage to other people, and probably to yourself too. I just don't want you to hurt yourself.

Take care, dear ieltsinsider. don't always take things in the negative side. basically, the world isn't that bad. have a nice day.
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