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andrew liu
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 19 Location: Changsha,China
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:57 am Post subject: Why terrorists like to attack America,but not other nations? |
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Hello Everybody,,I'm a college student in China.
In recent year we have a new and very hot topic That is the terrirosts' attack,But almost all this attacks are relevant to America,the superpower country.So why? why american have so many enemies?
Could you give your opinion about it!@
Thanks!@#  _________________ I wish I could make friends around all of the global village,remember I love my friends most. |
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oinrocinu
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 76 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:15 am Post subject: |
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mmmm, sorry? I've only heard one attack in US. _________________ Para sentir no bastan cinco sentidos... |
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ganagang
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:52 am Post subject: |
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What is the definition of Terrorist? What if military forces from other countries were "entering" your country to , as they say, bring you a democratic government and lead you toward a brighter future? Or just because they see you were living under an outrageous regime and they couldn't bear knowing that? What would you think of them and what would you do toward them? If you'd go and keep them out of your door, how about they calling you a TERRORIST? _________________ Where there's a will, there's a way |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 68
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: Re: Why terrorists like to attack America,but not other nati |
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andrew liu wrote: |
Hello Everybody,,I'm a college student in China.
In recent year we have a new and very hot topic That is the terrirosts' attack,But almost all this attacks are relevant to America,the superpower country.So why? why american have so many enemies?
Could you give your opinion about it!@
Thanks!@#  |
like oinrocinu,
Excuse me the question
Have you not heard about terrorist attack which has already killed 190 people and 1500 injured last March 11th 2004 in MADRID?
And after September 11th it also had a important attack in BALI?
Because your question it looks like only USA is being hit by Al Qaida and other terrorists groups? _________________ I could dance with you till the cows come home...On second thought, I'd rather dance with the cows when you came home |
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LucentShade
Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 542 Location: Nebraska, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, according to President* Bush, terrorists attack the U.S. because they are envious and hateful of things like "freedom" and "democracy." In reality, things are much more complex. I don't want to go in to a long history, but I'll give a short summary. For the past 60 years, the U.S. has held a policy of supporting right-wing, oppressive dictatorships, as long as they were anti-communist and favorable to U.S. business interests. Although these connections are hidden from people in the U.S, people in other countries don't find it hard to associate "American" with the corrupt and brutal regimes that they live under. This is hypocrisy--while claiming to be for things like democracy and freedom, we prevent other people from obtaining those things, so that we can line our pockets with even more money.
In the case of Al-Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups, there are two general motivations. One of these is the support that the U.S. gives Israel and its actions against the Palestian Muslim population. The other (and this is what most concerns Osama bin Laden) is the stationing of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, which have been there since the first Gulf War. Since Saudi Arabia is the Muslim Holy Land, the extremists feel that our military presence defiles their lands. |
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Diana
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Guam, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Almost every country is guilty of looking after their own self interest. The United States is not an exception. Do you know of any country who would actually support a foreign policy they feel would not be in the best interest of their country and people? Remember, the US was not the only country who refused to sign the Kyoto. Russia also refused to sign it because they feel that the Kyoto plan would harm their economy.
The US was also not the only country supplying money and arms to Afgthanistan in the 1980s. Saudi Arabia gave 20 million dollars a month to the Afghan jihad. And it was Prince Kurki al-Faisal Saud, the head of the Saudi General Intelligence agency who also worked closely with Osama Bin Laden. Furthermore, Pakistan also helped out in training and supplying the Afghans with arms. The US, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt may have provided funding and arms to Afghanistan, but NOT ONE of these countries knew that in the future it would be the Taliban who would come out the victor in gaining control of the country as they battled the numerous warlords around them. No one can tell the future.
It wasn't until later when the Taliban started committing atrocities (especially toward Afghan women) that even Saudi Arabia who helped funded Afghanistan wouldn't recognize the rule of the Taiban. The UN later put sanctions in Afghanistan, and even the US wanted little to do with them. The US later included Afghanistan under their list of terrorism during the Clinton administration.
Yes, the US was anti-communist because the Soviet Union was their cold war enemy. They watched every step that the Russians took, and the Americans countered each step against them. The Soviet Union, on the other hand, have also done the same to the Americans. At that time, the Americans saw communism more as a threat. Communism has killed more than 100 million people under Staln, Mao, Pol Pot, and others like them who not only oppressed their own people but also sought to spread communism to their surroundering neighbors. This was what America feared the most at that time - the spread of communism. The dictatorship of countries such as Saudi Arabia were never seen as a threat to the US because these dictators have no desire to spread their rule to other countries.
Today, the threat is fundamental Islam. Bin Laden and al-Queda wants to spread Islam and now the US sees this as a threat. On November 24, 2004, al-Queda listed 7 demands they wanted from America. The first and foremost demand they listed is for America to convert to Islam. The second demand is for America to get rid of gambling, drinking alcohol, pornography, and even the US Constitution. Al-Queda believes that America would benefit more if they replace their Constituion with Sharia Law - the law of Allah. Al-Queda only believes in their own brand of Islam because they will also kill muslims who disagree with them. Even Saudi Arabia and Egypt is seen as infidel countries in Bin Laden's eyes simply because to him they are not Islamic enough. |
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Diana
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Guam, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Why terrorists like to attack America,but not other nati |
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andrew liu wrote: |
Hello Everybody,,I'm a college student in China.
In recent year we have a new and very hot topic That is the terrirosts' attack,But almost all this attacks are relevant to America,the superpower country.So why? why american have so many enemies?
Could you give your opinion about it!@
Thanks!@#  |
As Excaliber pointed out, America is not the only country who was attacked by terrorists. There are also Christian terrorists in Northern Ireland attacking the English. There are also Christian terrorists in Spain (the ETA) attacking innocent people. In the southern part of the Philippines, the muslim terrorists are attacking the government and the Christians. The Chechen terrorists are also attacking the Russians. In Kashmir, there are also muslim terrorists attacking the Indians. In Israel, Palestinian militants such as Hamas are brainwashing innocent 12 year old Palestinian children to become desposible weapons to kill other innocents. Al-Queda is not only attacking Americans. They also attacked innocent Shi'ite muslims in Iraq and other innocent Arabs in Saudi Arabia as well as in Turkey. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 68
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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LucentShade wrote: |
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In the case of Al-Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups, there are two general motivations. One of these is the support that the U.S. gives Israel and its actions against the Palestian Muslim population. The other (and this is what most concerns Osama bin Laden) is the stationing of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, which have been there since the first Gulf War. Since Saudi Arabia is the Muslim Holy Land, the extremists feel that our military presence defiles their lands. |
I agree with you in many thinghs but I would like to say some clarifications.
In my opinion If someday there is peace agreement between Palestines and Israelis It will be thanks of USA. Because it is the only interlocutor which is recognize for both sides.From my point view these two motivations are not enough justification existence of these terrorist groups. the policitical of Israel is wrong the violence againts palestines only is going to generate more violence. I am not defending the position of Israel and I dont want to talk about the historical right from both sides
The goal of the Arabs ( Palestines included and supported wiht Arabs coutries from there) has always been to get rid of Israel from their land. It is only the final aim which they want to reach. Arabs countries from there never have thought to achieve an peace agrement to permit israel live there.
If Saudi Arabia permits USA Army to be there for whatever reasons and its behaviour is very respectfully with muslim world places, religion,etc.
what kind of insult against the muslim arabs is that???
Europe and USA always are talking about freedom religion to the Muslin World an others religion. I agree with that. One example is happening with headscarf in France. However, coutnries as Arabs Saudi doest permit to show up anykind of symbols of Christianity. as crucifix.
Anyhow, I am not the owner of the trust. I only wanted to expres my thoughts. _________________ I could dance with you till the cows come home...On second thought, I'd rather dance with the cows when you came home |
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Eigo-Mike
Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Of course the USA did TRAIN the Taliban... |
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LucentShade
Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 542 Location: Nebraska, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote: |
If Saudi Arabia permits USA Army to be there for whatever reasons and its behaviour is very respectfully with muslim world places, religion,etc.
what kind of insult against the muslim arabs is that???
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To bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, it's irrelevant that the Saudi government permits the U.S. Army to be there. To them, it's only a matter of non-Muslims stepping on holy ground. |
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txqtpup
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 13 Location: texas
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject: terrorists |
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Terrorists are terrorists, they attack others for many many reasons, and sometimes for no reasons at all. They just cannot see others live happily in peace. They use religion, ethnicity, etc to justify their attacks. People are easily touched by their propaganda. However, those who are intelligent and wise will see no reasons to make others suffer due to own suffering. There's no reasons to kill! Why America? Actually it happens everywhere, but when it happened to a superpower country like US it became a breaking news. |
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Devotion
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: |
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. _________________ I have worked in Spain, France, and the USA. Also on the islands of Saipan, Bali and Guam, as well as in the U.A.E, Poland, the CZ Rep. and in FR Guyana.
http://www.engrish.com
Next??? CHINA!!! 
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Devotion
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: |
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What Andrew Liu has tried to say was: "why the world hates the USA"
"Why Americans have so many enemies?":
Because they are c.ocky arrogants and pompous, their beloved sports worship violence, their movies worship violence, their streets worship violence, even their new fashion car as big as can get a pickup truck or an SUV represent violence. Their human body size is violent; their "democracy" dollar based is violent.
USA is famous for its apartheid, fanatics TV religions, maniac military power, militia supremacists, KKK, white trash and redneck, racketeers politicians, color and cast discrimination, illegal farmers and builders laborers, fake puritans, drive by shootings, sexual work harassments, public racism, spying landlords, underpaid and over worked employees, lobbyist, world proud largest polluter, teenagers gangs, corrupted law enforcement, credit card healthcare, child prostitution, mega lawyers, puppeteers laws, psychotic stars shows, propaganda, etc.
Yet, they have decided to teach the world.....
���.60 percent of 4th graders from low-income households cannot read at grade level in the USA��.� _________________ I have worked in Spain, France, and the USA. Also on the islands of Saipan, Bali and Guam, as well as in the U.A.E, Poland, the CZ Rep. and in FR Guyana.
http://www.engrish.com
Next??? CHINA!!!  |
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obelix
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 304
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: yawn |
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America is also famous as a bastion of democracy and may well be the reason why we are not all living under communist politburos.
Naturally, this annoys those who think the world should be communist and I am surprised devotion forgot to slip in the phrase "capitalist hyenas" and other such expressions beloved by communist propagandists. |
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openguide
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 31 Location: Who cares?
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Why terrorists like to attack America,but not other nations?
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NOt only America, I am afraid, find more news in the newspaper or on tv.  _________________ ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, CALL ME, AND I WILL BE THERE. ^_^ |
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