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[Isaac Sadaqah]

may express briefly about you opinon and ideas about Isalm.

[al kilde]

http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/mainpage/indexe.php

[asterix]

It is an intolerant religion that treats women as second class citizens.

[ParadiseLost]

Islam is a horriable relgion that incourges the use of force. i believe that it should be ended to prevent future attacks

[flower]

Hi paradiselost,

Islam is not a horrible religion. Personally, I respect all religion and I learn that lesson from Islam. I can’t say that is horrible or wrong if I am not sure about what I am saying. Please my brother or my sister, it is important to respect other people feeling.
Islam honors all the prophets who were sent to mankind. Muslims respect all prophets in general, but Jesus in particular, because he was one of the prophets who foretold the coming of Muhammad. Muslims, too, await the second coming of Jesus. They consider him one of the greatest of Allah's prophets to mankind. A Muslim does not refer to him simply as "Jesus," but normally adds the phrase "peace be upon him" as a sign of respect.
No other religion in the world respects and dignifies Jesus as Islam does. The Qur'an confirms his virgin birth (a chapter of the Qur'an is entitled "Mary"), and Mary is considered to have been one of the purest women in all creation. The Qur'an describes Jesus' birth as follows:
"Behold!' the Angel said, God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above the women of all nations. Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name shall be the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honored in this world and in the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people from his cradle and in maturity, and he shall be of the righteous. She said: "My Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?' He said: "Even so; God creates what He will. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, 'Be!' and it is." [3:42-47]
Muslims believe that Jesus was born immaculately, and through the same power which had brought Eve to life and Adam into being without a father or a mother.
"Truly, the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, and then said to him, 'Be!' and he was." [3:59]
During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. The Qur'an tells us that he said:
"I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it and it becomes a bird by God's leave. And I heal the blind, and the lepers, and I raise the dead by God's leave." [3:49]
Muhammad and Jesus, as well as the other prophets, were sent to confirm the belief in one God. This is referred to in the Qur'an where Jesus is reported as saying that he came:
"To attest the law which was before me, and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden you; I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear God and obey me." [3:50]
Prophet Muhammad emphasized the importance of Jesus by saying:
"Whoever believes there is no god but Allah, alone without partner, that Muhammad is His messenger, that Jesus is a servant and messenger of God, His word breathed into Mary and a spirit emanating from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven. [Bukhari]

[flower]

Hi asterix,

Islam is not an intolerant religion that treats women as second class. My brother or my sister,
At a time when the rest of the world, from Greece and Rome to India and China, considered women as no better than children or even slaves, with no rights whatsoever, Islam acknowledged women's equality with men in a great many respects. The Qur'an states:
"And among His signs is this: that He created mates for you form yourselves that you may find rest, peace of mind in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Lo, herein indeed are signs for people who reflect." [30:21]
Prophet Muhammad said:
"The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manners and kindest to his wife." [Abu Dawud]
Please think about that what does it mean?? Thanks,

[fa6ma]

hi flower....

what can i say WOW...

nice information

are you muslim ????

[flower]

Yes, l am a new Muslim girl.
I thank my God a lot because I became Muslim before my death

[asterix]

Christianity reveres Jesus more than any other religion.
No matter what Islam is SUPPOSED to do, the fact is that in Islamic countries today, women are treated as being less equal than men.
In Saudi Arabia they cannot even drive a car.

[flower]

Hi asterix,

Now you are making stereotype, to improve your language skills you should avoid stereotype.
OK, each government has it’s own view of things…so on…
In Islam a woman is to be treated as God has endowed her, with rights, such as to be treated as an individual, with the right to own and dispose of her own property and earnings, enter into contracts, even after marriage. She has the right to be educated and to work outside the home if she so chooses. She has the right to inherit from her father, mother, and husband. A very interesting point to note is that in Islam, unlike any other religion, a woman can be an imam, a leader of communal prayer, for a group of women.
A Muslim woman also has obligations. All the laws and regulations pertaining to prayer, fasting, charity, pilgrimage, doing good deeds, etc., apply to women, albeit with minor differences having mainly to do with female physiology.
Before marriage, a woman has the right to choose her husband. Islamic law is very strict regarding the necessity of having the woman's consent for marriage. A marriage dowry is given by the groom to the bride for her own personal use. She keeps her own family name, rather than taking her husband's. As a wife, a woman has the right to be supported by her husband even if she is already rich. She also has the right to seek divorce and custody of young children. She does not return the dowry, except in a few unusual situations.
What does that mean? Think about it deeply!!Thanks

[fa6ma]

hi flower

im happy for you ....

please tell me what do you mean by "my death"

and where are U from?

what is the thing that made you want to be a muslim..


lot of questions ha...

look forward to your reply!

[flower]

Hi fa6ma,

I’d rather forget some of my past experience, mistakes and other.
Fa6ma you are lucky?? Why
You know why
You are Muslim
Also, you are from Qatar


I am lucky too,
Because one day
I know what is
Right and wrong


My death-the end of my life. Each person will die sometime

[fa6ma]

thanks for your reply .....

i hope that your happy in the religion that you choose....

but you didnt answer my question and im eager to know the answer

what is the thing that made you want to be a muslim??

i would be happy to see your answer ....

take care

[asterix]

I do not doubt that Islam says that women have all the rights that you say they have.
Unfortunately those rights are not guaranteed by many countries that are Islamic. This is not some stereotype. This is fact... In Saudi Arabia women are not allowed to drive a car.
In Islam women are beheaded for infidelity.
The men with whom they are unfaithful are not.
Women are stoned to death for having sex outside of marriage. Men are not.
So men have more rights than women.
Do you think that is just?

[flower]

Hi asterix,

Yes, Women are stoned to death for having sex outside of marriage but who told you that men are not. My brother or my sister, in fact I was amazed at the extend of your knowledge but don’t get your information from one source, don’t trust every thing you hared from people or medium, think critically about the message you have.
Human Rights
Islam has been from its inception very concerned with issues of human rights. Privacy, freedom, dignity and equality are guaranteed in Islam. The holy Qur'an states clearly:
"There is no compulsion in religion."
And there are no reliable reports to confirm the old accusations that when the Muslim armies were expanding into Asia, Africa and Europe the people were put to the sword if they failed to convert to Islam. The best proof is that not only did the Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and Hindus in those areas not perish or otherwise disappear, they actually flourished as protected minority communities, and many individuals rose to prominent positions in the arts, sciences, even in government.
The lives,property and privacy of all citizens in an Islamic state are considered sacred, whether or not the person is Muslim. Non-Muslims have freedom of worship and the practice of their religions, including their own family law and religious courts. They are obliged to pay a different tax (Jizyah) instead of the Zakah, and the state is obligated to provide both protection and government services. Before the modern era it was extremely rare to find a state or government anywhere in the world that was as solicitous of its minorities and their civil rights as the Islamic states.
In no other religion did women receive such a degree of legal and moral equality and personal respect. Moreover, racism and tribalism are incompatible with Islam, for the Qur'an speaks of human equality in the following terms:
"Mankind! We created you from a single soul, male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may come to know one another. Truly, the most honored of you in God's sight is the greatest of you in piety."