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beancurdturtle

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 1041 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Who want to know Vietnam's culture? (very interesting) |
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lovelybaby wrote: |
It is a ''ao dai'' (it means "long shirt)
It is traditonnal Vietnam
I will say more next time. |
I think traditional Vietnamese clothing for women is very feminine, and flattering to the Vietnamese figure.
Most of the people where I work are Asian. And I am lucky to live near one of the largest Vietnamese immigrant populations in the U.S. I get to see many pretty ladies and enjoy all kinds of good Vietnamese food.  _________________ Daniel
�Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.�
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ltp-008
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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garfield_jesse wrote: |
Thanks ltp-008 for answering me many interesting questions.  |
you are very welcome! |
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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The pretty ladies of Vietnam. . . I can't help remembering a passage of that book "The quiet American", by Graham Greene, in which Fowler kinds of compares the Vietnamese women to birds. _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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Linh
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I already read that book by Graham Greene. Last year, as I remebered. One good thing about the book is that it reveals the true cruel nature of war, which makes me like it.
The Vietnamese women (Phuong and her sister) depicted in it are not typical ones. They're just supporting roles and do not represent Vietnamese woman.
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Linh wrote: |
I already read that book by Graham Greene. Last year, as I remebered. One good thing about the book is that it reveals the true cruel nature of war, which makes me like it.
The Vietnamese women (Phuong and her sister) depicted in it are not typical ones. They're just supporting roles and do not represent Vietnamese woman.
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Really? Interesting observation. And why not (why Phoung and her sister do not represent the Vietnamese woman)? _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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Linh
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Well, that's because Graham Greene didn't build up this character (Phuong) for the purpose of presenting Vietnamese women to the readers. Thoughout the novel, she doesn't appear to be a strong character with very little presence. She's beautiful, in deed but what she wants is just a shoulder to lean on. And that's not what a typical Vietnamese woman wanted at that time.  |
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Linh wrote: |
Well, that's because Graham Greene didn't build up this character (Phuong) for the purpose of presenting Vietnamese women to the readers. Thoughout the novel, she doesn't appear to be a strong character with very little presence. She's beautiful, in deed but what she wants is just a shoulder to lean on. And that's not what a typical Vietnamese woman wanted at that time.  |
Oh, ok. I understand and I agree with you. In terms of personality, Phuong is in fact very unimpressive; she surely do not represent such a brave people as the Vietnamese. It seems that Mr. Graham Greene was more concerned with the physical beauty than with the personality of his creation.
But tell me, does she represent the Vietnamese woman in terms of physical appearance? _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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Linh
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Ah ,so that's what you concern about. Yeah, she's physically beautiful and her beauty, to some extent, can be typical of Vietnamese women with those delicate features. |
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I see. . . just like "Gabriela", a character created by Brazilian author Jorge Amado, physicaly represents the avarage Brazilian woman.
Gisele B�ndchen is surely very beautiful, but her kind of beauty has nothing to do with most of Brazilian women. _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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Linh
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Amazing! I mean...I've always thought that she has such Latin beauty. Perhaps it's becoz I don't know much about Brazilian women Thanks for revealing this truth to me.  |
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Well. . . of course she has some of the characteristics of the typical Brazilian woman. The way she walks, for example, like she was "rebolando" (I don't know how to say this in English. . . it's a special way of moving one's hips when one is walking).
But she's got fair eyes, fair complexion and fair hair, which is only common in the Southest part of the country (where in fact she was born). _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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beancurdturtle

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 1041 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Linh wrote: |
Ah ,so that's what you concern about. Yeah, she's physically beautiful and her beauty, to some extent, can be typical of Vietnamese women with those delicate features. |
Have you seen the movie Vertical Ray of the Sun? If you did, what do you think of it?
www.sonyclassics.com/verticalrayofthesun/index.html
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Well. . . of course she has some of the characteristics of the typical Brazilian woman. The way she walks, for example, like she was "rebolando". |
I love the way Brazilian women walk. It seems like too many women (especially in the U.S.) walk like truck drivers instead of like women nowadays *sigh* _________________ Daniel
�Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.�
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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beancurdturtle wrote: |
ClarissaMach wrote: |
Well. . . of course she has some of the characteristics of the typical Brazilian woman. The way she walks, for example, like she was "rebolando". |
I love the way Brazilian women walk. It seems like too many women (especially in the U.S.) walk like truck drivers instead of like women nowadays *sigh* |
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Linh
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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beancurdturtle wrote: |
Linh wrote: |
Ah ,so that's what you concern about. Yeah, she's physically beautiful and her beauty, to some extent, can be typical of Vietnamese women with those delicate features. |
Have you seen the movie Vertical Ray of the Sun? If you did, what do you think of it?
www.sonyclassics.com/verticalrayofthesun/index.html
ClarissaMach wrote: |
Well. . . of course she has some of the characteristics of the typical Brazilian woman. The way she walks, for example, like she was "rebolando". |
I love the way Brazilian women walk. It seems like too many women (especially in the U.S.) walk like truck drivers instead of like women nowadays *sigh* |
I've already seen it, but only some scenes 'cause in the middle, I got tired of it (sad but it's true ). The film was too slow for me and I didn't get any clear message from it. The only hightlight of the film, in my view, was the presence of three pretty women. One is a Vietnamese overseas (Tran Nu Yen Khe) and the other two are very famous actresses in Vietnam (Nhu Quynh and Le Khanh). They own typical Vietnamese beauty, at least in their appearance . |
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beancurdturtle

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 1041 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Linh wrote: |
I've already seen it, but only some scenes 'cause in the middle, I got tired of it (sad but it's true ). The film was too slow for me and I didn't get any clear message from it. The only hightlight of the film, in my view, was the presence of three pretty women. One is a Vietnamese overseas (Tran Nu Yen Khe) and the other two are very famous actresses in Vietnam (Nhu Quynh and Le Khanh). They own typical Vietnamese beauty, at least in their appearance . |
It is a slow film. And for people who are used to American style of films, it could seem long.
The point was to show an intimate "slice of life" from three sisters, with different lives, levels of maturity, and challenges. Plus the cinematography is outstanding - it is beautifully filmed. Watching this kind of film is like taking a slow bath instead of running through the lawn sprinklers - each is enjoyable in very different ways.
I said "bath." That reminds me of another good intimate film called "Shower." It's about a father and son in China instead of three sisters in Vietnam. I really enjoyed this film too.
http://www.sonypictures.com/classics/shower/index.html _________________ Daniel
�Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.�
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