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mkg1211
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Cairo,Egypt
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:16 am Post subject: |
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asalam aliki wa rahmat Allah wa barakatoh
(Peace be upon you)
dear flower
i really adi'i (pray)for you and your wonderful efforts
thank you very much
Your brother in Islam Mohamed
by the way
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but don�t get your information from one source, don�t trust every thing you hared from people or medium, think critically about the message you have |
i told him that before  |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Flower, you keep writing about what Islam USED to be. That was a very long time ago when Islam was great. Now what is it? A religion that says it has "no compulsion" and yet stones women to death for extra-marital sex.
It is the 21st century and Islam is still stuck in the 7th century with barbaric punishments such as that.
You are 1400 years behind the times. It is time to modernise, surely? |
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flower
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 186
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Islam was great and still great. |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Merely because you have a bigger typeface than I, does not mean you are right. On the contrary, it shows that, in modern day Islam, you think if you shout louder than everyone else it serves as a valid argument. That too is a barbaric and outdated idea. |
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flower
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 186
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Again asterix don�t get your information from one source, don�t trust every thing you hared from people or medium, think critically about the message you have. Islam is not barbaric or outdated. If you know nothing about Islam please don�t make a judgment.  |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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I said that stoning a woman to death is a barbaric punishment.
The fact that you defend it validates my other argument. |
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Isaac Sadaqah
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 28
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:58 am Post subject: Why to stone? |
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no clue what you are talking about.
Last edited by Isaac Sadaqah on Sat May 03, 2008 3:46 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:25 am Post subject: |
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On the contrary, the Western media bend over backwards to justify Islamic extremism, as you would know if you had ever read The Guardian. |
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject: Bias? |
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Isaac Sadaqah wrote: |
The agressive attack on Islam that is made by Media is wrong. And tries to spread wrong ideas about Islam. |
I'm with asterix on this. What media are you talking about? Do you have links to sample articles?
Everything I read in the mainstream media has been mostly respectful of Islam. You have to really search in alternate publications to find anything critical. |
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hala79
Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Amman
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: Muslem |
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[b]Assalamu Alikom all,
so nice discussion, i am a muslem girl and i am so glad and proud of my Islam who saved me from all the killing disseases in the world as well as thanks for My Islam that he treated men and women as a human not as an animal.
as u notice that cats, dogs and other animals and insects can make sex in streat with any other animal with a marriage because they r animals and have no mind. however human do sex his wife /husband and them make a very beautiful family with no losted children.
Moreover, i would like to say to all that i am a women 25 years old working as men in a company have all the rights to go wher i want as well as i have the right to drive a car.
finally, i am going to marry in this summer and as Islam say that my fiance should give me dowry, he gaved to me 3000 JD and buy to me the ring, as well as he will buy to me gold, and all that to save my rights
[/b] _________________ H.M |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I don't doubt you are a very nice person and I wish you all the best in your upcoming marriage.
It seems you tacitly agree that stoning a woman to death is a civilized punishment.
I beg to disagree. It is inhumane and barbaric. The animals you kill to eat are not killed in such an inhumane way, are they? |
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hala79
Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Amman
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Hellow Astrix,
Listen dear,
Befor Islam come women were as a servant for men and have no rights, they were just use her for se x only as if she has no feelings, no imotions, and before Islam if the woman born a girl, men were bury the baby to not live, however when islam come He prevent this bad habit and order of punish to whom make it.
Then i would like to insure that not only wome stoned to death when making sex out side marriege but also men. Believe me dear, we are so happy with the orders of our Islam since we are sure that our Islam protects us from AIDS & other killing diseases
Our islam is very great and Justic
i hope u understand me Astriex
_________________ H.M |
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hala79
Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Amman
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
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THANKS DEAR ASTERIX FOR UR SO NICE WHISHING FOR ME TO A GREAT MARRIEGE, I WISH MORE FOR U  _________________ H.M |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Leaving aside the fact that death is a ridiculously severe punishment for extra-marital sex, isn't death itself a punishment so severe that it needs no prolongation? After all, you believe that such a "criminal" will go straight to hell. What worse punishment can there be than that?
I agree with you that sexually transmitted diseases are spread by promiscuity, but monogamous people are in no danger.
But I still wish you all the best in your marriage. May your tribe increase. |
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flower
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 186
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi hala,
wishing you all the
good things in life
may the love that
you share with your
future spouse growes
deeper with each
passing year..... |
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