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Luckyyoung
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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All Residents In Dokdo are Koreans and they want to stay in Koreans
As far as I know many residents in Taiwan want to be Taiwaneses rather than Chineses
Joon_star,do you know?All residents in TaiWan are chinese,perhaps,you are right,but I believe that All residents in TaiWan all acknowledge who should acknowledge they are chinese.
Furthermore,do you know chinese history?,I suggest you can know chinese history,if you know chinese history,you can make out chinese emotion.
By the way, I have a question,if all residents in dokdo are korean,but Japan could say that dokdo is a part of Japan,why? |
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joon_star
Joined: 11 Mar 2006
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Location: Dajon, Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| do you know?All residents in TaiWan are chinese,perhaps,you are right,but I believe that All residents in TaiWan all acknowledge who should acknowledge they are chinese. |
You're not qualified to answer that. We should ask it to people in Taiwan.
| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| do you know chinese history? |
Yes, or no.
(1) Yes, I know some of chinese history.
(2) No, I don't know all of chinese history.
I think the above answer is my best one.
And I like to suggest that you NOT to ask whether I know chinese history. How can I answer if you ask whether I know chinese history.
You'd better rather tell the Chinese history which you want to say than ask me whether I know chinese history.
| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| if you know chinese history,you can make out chinese emotion. |
This tells why your point goes to emotion so often.
Going to emotion is not the way to solve a problem.
| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| I have a question,if all residents in dokdo are korean,but Japan could say that dokdo is a part of Japan,why? |
Don't ask it to me, but ask it to Japanese.
I also like to ask it to Japanese sincerely.
Is here in this forum any Japanse?
If any Japanese here, I like to give him a congratory comment from my heart on the matter of the World Baseball Classic game result which held in America Yesterday. |
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Luckyyoung
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| Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I don't know why to say emotion,perhaps,I don't know how to say.long long ago,Taiwan has been a chinese province.In Qing dynasty,KangXi emperor has finished to govern.In recent history of china,Taiwan has been invaded by Japan.After World War 2,Taiwan came back too.
After chinese domestic war,Kuomintang has run into Taiwan,but because USA's interventioin,Taiwan has not liberated,but Kuomintang has not acknowledged that Taiwan isn't a part of china.
Now,there are some people in Taiwan who want to indepentence.but the fact has not been changed forever |
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joon_star
Joined: 11 Mar 2006
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Location: Dajon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| Taiwan has not liberated, |
"Liberated" means, in another point of view, "independent." |
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pavilion
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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As an American, Bush and his idiotic administration better not invade Iran. We have no reason to, just like we had no reason to invade Iraq. The Bush administration is worthless and stupid and needs to be done away with.
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Well,of course US would say it dosn't hope ,wherever it goes,it would say it hopes the peace of the world  but that doesn't mean it thinks so.History has proved ,where was the benefit,where was American army. I am sure China doesn't hope US attack Iran,u know what?To be honest,if US is strongger enough ,it will attack China just like Iraq,law of the jungle  therefore,of course,China doesn't want US accomplish what it wants.In the same way,US doesn't want China accomplish what it wants too.  |
As an American, let me tell you that we have no interest whatsoever in invading China. The American people would NOT allow it. There is no threat from China against the US, so we have no reason to even contemplate an attack. Don't be so paranoid about it.
| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| After World War 2,Taiwan came back too. After chinese domestic war,Kuomintang has run into Taiwan,but because USA's interventioin,Taiwan has not liberated,but Kuomintang has not acknowledged that Taiwan isn't a part of china. |
The US never intervened. We never took sides in the Chinese Civil War. We did neutralize, or stop anything from crossing, the Taiwan Strait when North Korea invaded South Korea. Other than that, we didn't do anything. Although, because of the Cold War, we did view the KMT as the legitimate rulers of China up until the 1970's. If you look at the Treaty of Taipei, Taiwan was NOT explicitly granted sovereignty to China. In 1972, however, Japan recognized Taiwan belonging to the PRC, and everyone else, including the US, kind of accepted it, too.
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| Now,there are some people in Taiwan who want to indepentence.but the fact has not been changed forever |
The majority just want to maintain the status quo, or in other words, not change anything. Here
| joon_star wrote: |
| "Liberated" means, in another point of view, "independent." |
Actually, "liberated" really only means "to be set free", especially from oppressive situations.
A friendly piece of advice: Don't believe everything the government tells you. I know I sure don't. |
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joon_star
Joined: 11 Mar 2006
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Location: Dajon, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| pavilion wrote: |
Actually, "liberated" really only means "to be set free", especially from oppressive situations.
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If you are dependent, you are not free, vice-versa.
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| A friendly piece of advice: Don't believe everything the government tells you. I know I sure don't. |
I like to say you try to escape from the control of your media like CNN, ABC, and so forth. |
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Luckyyoung
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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pavilion:
It's marvelous,now,America is only one super country.all of world can find the army of america,many countries don't hope to battle with america.but I believe that no one can be afraid of america.
furthermore,I don't believe reporting of government sometimes.but I believe anyone can love his native country. |
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pavilion
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| joon_star wrote: |
| If you are dependent, you are not free, vice-versa. |
Yes, true.
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| I like to say you try to escape from the control of your media like CNN, ABC, and so forth. |
I don't believe everything I hear from any one station. I take if from many sources. |
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Luckyyoung
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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pavilion:
Where to get some news and informations.I want to know.you say America doesn't attack Iran,how to know it? |
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pavilion
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| Where to get some news and informations.I want to know.you say America doesn't attack Iran,how to know it? |
I look at CNN, BBC, NBC, ect. I am not saying the US won't attack Iran, because, well, Bush is in office. I am saying we shouldn't. |
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Outofin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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No, the US won't attack Iran during Bush's remaining years. Sorry, no analysis and reasoning, just my bet.  |
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Luckyyoung
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| For the gas,I believe USA will attack Iran,I hope the war doesn't break out in Bush government,but Bush seems to be a favorite war,he launchs two wars,no one knows whether Bush will launch the third war. |
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pavilion
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| For the gas,I believe USA will attack Iran,I hope the war doesn't break out in Bush government,but Bush seems to be a favorite war,he launchs two wars,no one knows whether Bush will launch the third war. |
Although its true no one knows if Bush will launch another war, I have to agree with Outofin. The US will likely not attack Iran. We would have zero support from the international community and from our own people. Thats a good thing, too. |
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Luckyyoung
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that if the U.S. will attack Iran,Israel and UK will be positive to help the U.S.,so Israel and England would support USA in assualting Iran in UN.but if USA will attack Iran without supporting in UN.
Perhaps,you are right!,it is not possible that USA will attack Iran,I hope so. |
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pavilion
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| I believe that if the U.S. will attack Iran,Israel and UK will be positive to help the U.S.,so Israel and England would support USA in assualting Iran in UN.but if USA will attack Iran without supporting in UN. |
Israel won't fight offensively, so they won't help. The UK, thats a tough one. I don't think the Brits would support it, even if Tony Blair wants to. It's a tough call. Other than that, no other nation will want to ally themselves with another illegal war.
| Luckyyoung wrote: |
| Perhaps,you are right!,it is not possible that USA will attack Iran,I hope so. |
I hope so, too!  |
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