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a shining pig
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 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:35 am Post subject: Re: culture |
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really, american economy is very strong. american system is very
effecttive. but these aren't unique at all!
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a shining pig
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:40 am Post subject: Re: culture |
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It's hard for at least myself to say one shouldn't be able to express their opinion or knowledge freely, but on the other hand.. how good would it be for me to spread freely information on tracking systems for weapons? These more difficult issues are often ignored.
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sorry, my english is very poor. so i can't express my idea exactly.
i am a Chinese. if this issue can be written by myself language, i should
let you talk down. our a master can said that a lot of histories could
develop a few of traditions, the same time, a lot of traditions can
develop a few of cultures. american culture is made up many foreign
cultures. among these, european culture is major. you don't absorb these
cultures at all. so you haven't cultures at all. you advertise freedom, even
use your advanced weapons to force others to accept your traditions.
these overbearing ideas are from Christianit. our eastern culture
emphasize forgiveness. Albert Einstein believe Buddhism because of
the real forgiveness.
finally, i want to say"your 43th president is a boring guy! he takes
crisis of trust for the world."
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Force_9
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Emphasizing forgiveness, eh?
So.....if terrorists killed 3000 of your people, you would just forgive them? I'm not saying forgiveness is wrong...I am a Christian, and in Christianity, forgiveness is *required* However, we also believe in justice. You can forgive a bad person, but that doesn't mean that you let them keep doing what they are doing.
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Tara B
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject: American culture |
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| I think American popular culture is a natural result of an extended period of prosperity. There are many bad aspects to American culture; however I think that many of the bad parts come from commercialism and materialism. I think many countries having been so rich for so long would have produced exactly the same thing. All human beings are vulnerable to similar temptations. If not, then why is American culture so popular throughout the world? |
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simplyblessedwithlove
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: About "American ways" in foreign countries |
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| Fusako wrote: |
One of this American ways, for example, is a capitalist economy dominating the world�s market these days. In advanced countries it may not so matters, but almost developing countries in the world can�t reach this American way. The capitalist economy in a sense can deny the ethnic way of making a living (it may can be said self-sufficiency).
Their lands, cultures and people are devastated because of their adjusting to this American way. For instance, slash-and-burn agriculture is. Farmers burn forests in order to raise cattle (burned forests can be good manure to grow grass to raise cattle), unless they even can�t live no longer. And some advanced countries delightedly buy this inexpensive beef (the company of Japanese McDonald Hamburger does, as far as I know).
This sadness can�t be replaced with words, that any irreplaceable nature could be converted in dollars. |
This is not the "American" way if you study business. This is how business is; you have to adjust yourself to the needs and the demandings of the business world.
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simplyblessedwithlove
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: I let off steam of a Brazilian |
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| eleonorapo wrote: |
And, finally, it is is the culture america in the rest of the world!
They come to our country and they remove our wealth at banana price, without nothing can do, therefore there are economical reprisals, as well as in Fidel Castro Cuba.
I believe that the Americans are selfish and murderers of the worst nature, that put the human life in last place and the money and the power in first place. |
I simply pity you for looking at things in a general, yet, narrow-minded view.
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Here in Brazil, as in the whole Latin America, they financed the "military blows" that it killed a lot of people and that you/they had as goal, to end with the Brazilian communist party, killing a lot of innocent people!
they taught our people to kill and to torture communist as if they really went children's eaters.
Well, I think nobody is blind and everybody saw what they did and they are doing in Iraq. We cannot ask what an American finds, therefore they are not being very informed of the brutalities that there happen! |
Have you seen a Middle Eastern kid or an African little kid with a gun and he/she's already known how to use it? And please tell me that you'd say "Americans" taught them how to use it. 
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I hope God has mercy of the soul of the Americans, because their prepotency is very big, they think they are the owners of the world and of right manageable they are! Because, who would have courage of saying a not for the Americans? Now, with certainty it would be one more war! Cowards as always and false idealists, that he/she has the courage and petulance all over the world of seeing afome and if they don't look at that!
On September 11, I think they did deserve... I think only who lives in the skin that is the American north dominance, it is that he/she would have courage of doing something of that type. |
You believe in God?  What a laugh! Darn, God must have a hard time to forgive your "nice" soul.
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There, you wonder: "But so much innocent people died! "
Yes, he/she died! But with certainty they killed much Iraquian, Afghan, japoses!
Now, they were the only people capable to play two atomic bombs on the civil population of Japan! |
Read more history about the two atomic bombs before saying stuff, ok.
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On Iraq.. ahhhhh, that was a joke! Remember Bush "iraq freedom!" Freedom? Of the where what that freedom is??
For worst than Saddam went, with certainty the Americans were not calling the people that he killed and it massacred, so much that it helped him/it to arrive in the power! It financed the military blow to remove of the power the Shiite ones, that besides are returning with the whole force! There euq uero to see they to remove a drop of petroleum of the Iraquian soil!
As told me my mother: "here it is done, here pays himself! "
And that Bin Laden does make the Americans to pay, as well as the mother nature also!
In the bottom what desire does the one know? To total extinction of that people, because or they extinguish, or they will put an end to the rest of the world!
I only hope you are more human and remove the king of the belly and help other countries! If you leave and if they don't introduce in the Brazilian economy, us also iremnos to progress, as well as everybody!
Leave Cuba alone... if they are communist problems of them!
He/she knows, you say that healthy very rich, but in the reality you are very poor, so much of spirit, as economically, because you only explore the rizesas of the poorest countries! They come with saint's face and bonzinho offering help! Badly he/she knows the people that is the great true behind that ironic smile!
Well, after the relief, I am going saying goodbye to you. Excuse me who didn't like of what wrote, but that is my great reality! I have a dream: of we be all same ones, color independete, race, nationality! 'I know that it is Utopia, but at least, we will leave that each one grows in the way that can. Help to the neighbor... Africa... the hunger, Cuba... they leave them in peace also! For God's sake, begin to see the devastation that you do for the world out! |
Sure, you have that dream, but would it happen with your "nice" soul and attitude. I don't even wanna answer that. All I could say is I SIMPLY PITY YOU AND YOUR SOUL!
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simplyblessedwithlove
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: America |
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| Diana wrote: |
Secondly, to mandrake and eleonorapo, you have a serious misconception about America. You don't even know the difference between CULTURE and POLITICS. The two words are not the same! If you really want to see a world of peace where people of many nations get together, then get rid of your Bin Laden attitude. Saying that the American people deserves to be attacked by terrorists in 911 is simply pure hatred on your part - the same kind of hatred that Bin Laden has and brainwashed to his followers.
In the third place, learn some history. You say that America dropped two atomic bombs on Japan in 1945. Well, what do you think Japan was doing in 1945 and before that??? They were brutally slaughtering many innocent Chinese and Pacific Islanders! That was World War II. Japan was not an innocent country as they slaughtered innocent people in Asia and the Pacific islands - including my people on my island!
As for Iraq and Afghanistan, how easy it is for you to point to America's faults. Well, I have news for you! The Iraqi Kurds in the north helped the Americans fight against Saddam's Republican Guards while the Shi'ite muslims in the south helped the British locate Saddam's Fayedeen soldiers. Now, do you want to know why the Iraqi citizens were helping the Americans and British? It's because Saddam killed millions of Iraqis! The majority of Iraqi people are now happy to be free from Saddam, and they no longer have to live in fear anymore - thanks to the US and Britain.
As for Afghanistan, what do you think the Taliban were doing in that country? Haven't you heard the stories? Women were being raped and oppressed in that country that many of them committed suicide by drinking battery acid. Do you honestly think that the people of Afghanistan are better off with the Taliban? Think about it! And learn something about history. And while you're at it, take the time to meet and talk with an American. Then perhaps, you will learn that Americans are not "infidels" as Bin Laden puts it. They are human beings like everyone on this planet with the same emotions as everyone else. After all, Americans come from many different nationalities around the world. There are Asian Americans, European Americans, African Americans, Brazilian Americans, Cuban Americans, etc. The American people comes in many ethnic group and have many religions and beliefs. Like I said, I am a Chamorro-American. I am a Pacific Islander and an American. |
Well said, Diana. 
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Force_9
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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After reading the last part of Diana's post, it makes me want to ask the question we are debating in school right now......what is an American? I have already asked it here in a different post, but it did not get the attention I thought it would.
So many people in this forum have very opinionated views regarding we Americans...
I respect your opinions, good or bad, but I would like to know: What do you all think an American is?
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simplyblessedwithlove
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Force_9 wrote: |
After reading the last part of Diana's post, it makes me want to ask the question we are debating in school right now......what is an American? I have already asked it here in a different post, but it did not get the attention I thought it would.
So many people in this forum have very opinionated views regarding we Americans...
I respect your opinions, good or bad, but I would like to know: What do you all think an American is? |
Simple, a person who is born in the United States or Guam. I don't think we need to go in details to discuss human's behaviors or anything since each one of us has an evil side within. Don't you think asking what American is is sorta racist or discriminated or stereotype??? Well, I think so.
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Force_9
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I don't know how you see it, I never intended for it to sound racist...sorry I'm just curious as to what everyone's definition is.
I don't believe you have to be born in America to be American....if that were true, then what does it make the immigrants that achieve citizenship? There's a bit more to it also....it's obviously not the country that we came from that makes us American...how many people can say that they are full-blooded American? None. I myself am part Norwegian, German, Irish, and Swedish....but I'm called an American.
What makes me American? You may say that it's because I was born here, but like I already said, "what does it make the immigrants that achieve citizenship?"
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simplyblessedwithlove
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I don't believe you have to be born in America to be American....if that were true, then what does it make the immigrants that achieve citizenship? There's a bit more to it also....it's obviously not the country that we came from that makes us American...how many people can say that they are full-blooded American? None. I myself am part Norwegian, German, Irish, and Swedish....but I'm called an American.
What makes me American? You may say that it's because I was born here, but like I already said, "what does it make the immigrants that achieve citizenship?" |
They are Americans, but do they have that "americany" feelings or they've taken the citizenship just for living here without troubles or gaining more benefits by being a citizen?? I don't know about others, but I know I don't. Technically, I am an American, but I don't have that feeling. I've gotten the citizenship for living here, not for "I wanna be an American because American people are this and that."
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Force_9
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I don't know what you mean by "Americany feelings"
Like you said, you are technically an American....I never believed you had to have a certain feeling to be an American.
Please don't take my tone the wrong way....I'm not trying to be confrontational....like I said before, I'd like to know everyone's opinions.
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simplyblessedwithlove
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know how you see it, I never intended for it to sound racist...sorry I'm just curious as to what everyone's definition is.
I don't believe you have to be born in America to be American....if that were true, then what does it make the immigrants that achieve citizenship? There's a bit more to it also....it's obviously not the country that we came from that makes us American...how many people can say that they are full-blooded American? None. I myself am part Norwegian, German, Irish, and Swedish....but I'm called an American.
What makes me American? You may say that it's because I was born here, but like I already said, "what does it make the immigrants that achieve citizenship?" |
What is a full-blooded American to you? Native Americans? But when they were here, America was not like America after the Founding Fathers and other immigrant Europeans had fought for it.
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Force_9
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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To me, a full blooded American is non-existent. However, I suppose if you look at it from a Christian perspective, there is no such person other than a full blooded human, lol, since, according to what I believe, we all came from Adam and Eve.
When I say full blooded American though, I mean it as an American race...someone who looks distincly American...something which is impossible since there is so much variety here. Like I said, I don't believe such and identity is even in existence...at least not yet.
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simplyblessedwithlove
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what you mean by "Americany feelings"
Like you said, you are technically an American....I never believed you had to have a certain feeling to be an American.
Please don't take my tone the wrong way....I'm not trying to be confrontational....like I said before, I'd like to know everyone's opinions. |
Don't worry, I'm not offended by what you've said so far. Anyway, back to the discussion. Well, "Americany feelings"....hmmm..they're like patriotism, appreciation, proud, don't take it for granted, and such. To me those are "americany" feelings. I, myself, don't have all those. I only have my appreciation for the country, but not patriotism or other sources. Although I call it my home, but not birthplace home so I don't have enough patriotism to take my place in it during wars or whatever. Morever, I've been taking it for granted. If I was a "full" citizen, I shouldn't have taking my country for granted, should I? Thus, thta's why I think immigrant Americans are different. They don't have enough American pride to called Americans.
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