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[mkg1211]

dear ilya

[mkg1211]

[asterix]

There is no country called Palestine. You are supporting terrorists who are trying to take parts of Israel.

[pugachevV]

What occupying army did the children in a Russian school belong to?
You are completely full of pork rinds and apple sauce Mkg

[mkg1211]

i read what i have written

imagine that

it's written in English

one live in an isolated room in any israeli mind (media)
and another

didn't bother himself with reading all posts
pugachevV
i am completely against the disaster happened in Bislan
agian
i am completely against the disaster happened in Bislan

asterix
plz try to read ,try to be objective
what about more than 3000000 palestinian refugees out palestine
before 1940
could you compare numbers of arab and jewish
we are in front of a robbery

do you know how palestinian leave palestiane(the zioinist methods???)
you don't know
and will not
you don't want to knoe truth
i think you prefere nonsenses

[asterix]

The robber was the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which is now on the land the Palestinians were supposed to have. It was not Israel.

[mkg1211]

prove your words
and one of the clear proofs that says you are a big liar:
did you answer my questions ?
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[asterix]

Here you go MKG check the last entry for 1948. Sorry to disappoint you.


History of "Palestine" 1273 BCE to 1948
The only time "Palestine" was ruled by "Palestinians" or any people from the Arabian Peninsula was briefly around 635 A.D.
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 A.D. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years...," the Muslim chairman of the Syrian Delegation attested in his remarks to the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919.
"Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel... " Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the PLO and member of its Executive Council, Dutch daily Trouw, March 1977

A.D. Ruler *
1273 BCE Israel Conquest of Canaan ** under Joshua,
423 BCE Iranian Babylon invades and destroys First Temple [Persian empire was based in modern day Iran]
371 BCE Israel
Iranian King Cyrus issued decree to restore Jewish Nation
312 BCE Israel
Greek Battle of Gaza; Seleucus controls Syria and Babylonia [Seleucid empire was based in Macedonia, northern Greece]
285-246 BCE Israel
Egyptian Rule of Ptolemy II
199 BCE Israel
Greek Seleucid monarchy occupies Judea **
175 BCE Israel
Greek-Syrian Antiochus Epiphanes came to throne in Syria
168 BCE Israel
Greek-Syrian Pagan idol set up in Temple
165 BCE Israel
Greek-Syrian Macabean Revolt, beginning of Hasmonean dynasty
142 BCE Israel Shimon rules and gains Judean indepence
135-104 BCE Israel Rule of Yochanan Hyrkanus
104-103 BCE Israel Rule of Yehudah Aristobulus
103-76 BCE Israel Rule of Alexander Yannai
76-66 BCE Israel Rule of Salome Alexandra
63 BCE Israel
Roman Civil War: Hyrkanus vs. Aristobulus. Pompey intervenes, Conquest of Jerusalem by Pompey, Judea becomes Roman Vassal.
47 BCE Israel
Roman Caesar appoints Antipater ruler of Judea
70 Roman The Romans conquer Jerusalem
132-136 Roman Jewish revolt under Bar Kochba; final defeat of Judah and loss of political sovereignty, rename area to "Palestine" **
351 Roman Jewish revolt to end foreign rule; Roman Empire adopts Christianity.
395 Turkish Palestine part of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, still called Judea or Judah.
438 Turkish Empress Eudocia allows Jews back to Temple site, misinterpreted by Jews as return to nationhood.
614 Iran Persian conquest under Chosroes (with the support of a Jewish army).
628 Turkish "Palestine" reconquered by the Byzantines
633-637 Syrian Arab conquest; shortly afterward, attempt by Jews to restore their nation.
639 Syrian Muawiyah Arab governor.
660 Syrian Muawiyah is made the first Omayyad Caliph of Damascus.
661 Syrian Murder of Ali; Omayyad Dynasty begins.
750 Iraq Last Omayyad Caliph defeated; reign of the Abbassid Caliphs of Baghdad (Persian, Turk, Circassian, Kurd).
878 Egyptian Ahmad, b. Tulun, a Turkish general and governor of Egypt, conquers Palestine; reign of the Tulunides (Turks).
904 Iraq The Abbassids of Baghdad reconquer Palestine.
906 Carmathians Inroads of the Carmathians.
934 Egyptian The Egyptian lkhshidi princes conquer Palestine; their reign begins.
969 Egyptian The Fatimid Caliphs of Cairo conquer Palestine.
969-971 Carmathians War with the Carmathians.
970-976 Turkish Byzantine invasion.
1070-1080 Turkish Seljuq Turks conquer Palestine.
1099 Crusaders The Crusaders conquer Jerusalem, massacre the Jewish and Muslim populations; reign in parts of Palestine until 1291.
1187 Crusaders Saladin of Damascus, a Kurd, captures Jerusalem and the greater part of Palestine.
1244 Mongolian The Kharezmians, instigated by Genghis Khan, invade Palestine; Jerusalem's population is slaughtered, the city sacked.
1260 Egyptian Mameluk Sultans of Egypt defeat Mongols at Ain Jalut, in Palestine; their reign begins.
1260 Egyptian Mongol invasion; Jerusalem sacked.
1291 Egyptian End of the Latin (Crusaders) Kingdom.
1299-1303 Mongolian Mongol invasion.
1516-1517 Turkish The Ottomans conquer Palestine.
1799 French Napoleon conquers Palestine, but is defeated at Acre.
1831 Egyptian Ibrahim Pasha, adopted son of Egypt's Viceroy, occupies Palestine.
1840 Turkish Ibrahim Pasha compelled by the Powers to leave Palestine; Turkish rule restored.
1840 Turkish English writers and statesmen begin to discuss the possibility of a Jewish restoration.
1871-1882 Turkish First Jewish agricultural settlements.
1909 Turkish Foundation of the all-Jewish city of Tel Aviv.
1917-1918 British Allies occupy the whole of Palestine, east and west of the Jordan River; British military administration, end of Ottoman reign.
1917-1918 British Balfour Declaration granting "Jewish Homeland" internationally approved.
1920 British British (pre-Mandate) civil administration; Turkish sovereignty renounced, treaty includes Balfour Declaration
1922 British Palestine Mandate; Jewish National Home confirmed.
1923 British Palestine Mandate comes into operation.
1923 British Seventy-five percent of Palestine is set aside as an independent Arab "Palestinian" state, Transiordan.
1925 British Hebrew University of Jerusalem opened.
1927 British High Commissioners receive Commission for Transjordan.
1929 British Arab revolt.
1936-1939 British Arab revolt and civil war.
1946 British Establishment of Arab state of Transiordan.
1948 Israel End of Mandate for Palestine; establishment of State of Israel; Arab-Jewish war.
1948 Israel Eastern Palestine-Transjordan-.occupies the West Bank area of Western Palestine, becomes "Jordan," constituting over eighty percent of Palestine.
* For familiarity we cite the closest modern country which contained the seat of power at the time.

** Canaan, Judea and "Palestine" refers to both the East and West banks of the Jordan river, what is Israel and Jordan today..

Source: Joan Peter's "From Time Immemorial" Harper & Row Publishers
(with over 150 pages of well sourced footnotes) and
"History of the Jewish People - The Second Temple Era" by Mesorah Publications

[mkg1211]

[mehrezsassi]

You have a dirty mind and you are a dirty extremist ; one day you will see
the flag of Palistine waving on the state of palistine on the land of Palistine
You know why, because of those you -and other dirty minds like you- called "terrorists" .They are fighting you at any cost and they are going to kill Israelis at any place and they are going to make them withdraw soon from the land of Palistine . Your Bull of Israel has already learned the lesson and he is preparing his murderers to leave Geza and certainly he is thinking of what is going to do next .

And to prove that you have a dirty mind - the same for the advocate of killing Muslims in Palistine and Iraq who called Diana - I would like you to learn that the world ALLAH is the same as God . THERE ARE 3 DEVINE RELIGIONS AND ALL THE 3 PROPHETS ARE SENT BY Allah - God

And to prove that you are not only dirty but also ignorant , I would like you to know that we Muslims Must believe in the 3 Prophets without making any difference of them . See how much tolerance in Islam you stupid ignorant

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WITH TOO MUCH TOLERANCE

[mehrezsassi]

Postscriptum
DIRTY ASTERIX


I would like to add something that also proves your extremism and your ignorance ; you may say that I am an antisemetic - as it is a fashion today- so as to your ignorance you and Diana we Muslims cannot be antisemetic because we are ourselves members of the semetic branch
poor ignorants.

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With too much tolerance .

[mehrezsassi]

MKG1211

Don't lose your time with such minds , they are ignorants , they don't know anything about our religion or our civilisation . They are always trying to be blind in front of the truth and they will never admits that they are themselves terrorists .

[asterix]

Talking to yourself again mehresASSi?
The brains trust that is running the arab world is seriously deluded if it thinks making war on children and other innocents will get it what it wants.
That you muslims allow them to do it in the name of Islam without protest, shows the world that you are hypocrites.
Think about that while you are picking dates.