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Diana
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Guam, USA
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 Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Innocent |
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| pugachevV wrote: |
If you blow yourself up to kill women and children you are not "innocent". Merely, stupid and murderous.
Why are you wasting our time trying to tell us that words mean what they do not mean?
Murder is murder. It is not innocence except in the warped minds of apologists for the Palestinian cause. |
I agree with Pugachev V. Murder is murder. How an innocent person is killed is not the issue. The fact that innocent people are killed is what actually matters. Whether they are killed by guns, dynamites, or a knife is not the issue because they are all dead. The issue is that these people who were killed were innocent.
You and I certainly have different opinions, Someone. This is the difference between our opinions:
What matters to you is how they were killed. What matters to me is that the people who were killed were innocent.
You look at the number of people dead. I consider the loss of ONE innocent life already too many.
You view the life of an innocent Palestinian more valuable than an innocent Jew. I view the life of ALL innocents as valuable regardless of their race and religion.
You only judge the Jews as guilty of killing innocent people. I judge both the Palestinians and Israel as guilty for killing innocents.
You excuse the sucide bomber by saying that they didn't kill as many innocents as the Jews did. I don't make any excuses for any killers of innocents.
This is the difference between you and me, Someone.
You even give me a propoganda timeline that goes all the way back to 1937 - a time when Israel didn't even exist. You see the number of muslims killed during that time period. What you don't see is - in that same time period, over 6 million Jews were also slaughtered. In the same time period starting in 1937, I see both muslims and jews killed by the millions. You only see the muslims being killed. |
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someone
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 9:38 am Post subject: |
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HELLO DIANA ,,,
(What matters to me is that the people who were killed were innocent. )
when u r very interested of the innecot victims u will be aware of that as autited issue include the number of the victims , the causes,and
the way that used to kill them ..and all thing that related of the issus ..
 NOT THE ELEMENTS THAT U WANT ,,
DIANA,,,, u are contradictory..
(: One of these 19 terrorists who lived in the United States saw a man watering flowers in the park. The terrorist took this as a sign that all Americans are materialistic people - simply because this one man was watering flowers. Instead of thinking that some Americans care about Mother Earth or their environment, he took it as proof that Americans are godless, materialistic people. So, what does this tell you about Al-Queda? )
-1- u were able to comment the trerrisom actions of the 19 trerrists BUT now u canot comment anymore of the jews actions ,,
WHY ,, is thir treatment with childern and innecot people familiar with u ??   
or because u dont like to bother the JEWS feelings ???
do u think thier treatment with the children is full of humanity?
did nt u shoke by thier treatment
what do think about the picture ,, do u agree with thier treatment with the children and innecot teenagers ?
DIANA ...
i am very anxious to your comment of the pictures
IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES , IT WILL BE ANOTHER SERIOUS ISSUS
-2- u could remmeber the number of the victims in 11SEP very exactly BUT the victims of the palstinun and JEWS are not important to u ...
ANOTHER BIG WHY ??
because the number of the victims that killed by JEWS more ??
or BECAUSE WHAT ???
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someone
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 9:40 am Post subject: |
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HELLO DIANA ,,,
(What matters to me is that the people who were killed were innocent. )
when u r very interested of the innecot victims u will be aware of that as autited issue include the number of the victims , the causes,and
the way that used to kill them ..and all thing that related of the issus ..
NOT THE ELEMENTS THAT U WANT ,,
DIANA,,,, u are contradictory..
(: One of these 19 terrorists who lived in the United States saw a man watering flowers in the park. The terrorist took this as a sign that all Americans are materialistic people - simply because this one man was watering flowers. Instead of thinking that some Americans care about Mother Earth or their environment, he took it as proof that Americans are godless, materialistic people. So, what does this tell you about Al-Queda? )
-1- u were able to comment the trerrisom actions of the 19 trerrists BUT now u canot comment anymore of the jews actions ,,
WHY ,, is thir treatment with childern and innecot people familiar with u ??
or because u dont like to bother the JEWS feelings ???
do u think thier treatment with the children is full of humanity?
did nt u shoke by thier treatment
what do think about the picture ,, do u agree with thier treatment with the children and innecot teenagers ?
DIANA ...
i am very anxious to your comment of the pictures
IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES , IT WILL BE ANOTHER SERIOUS ISSUS
-2- u could remmeber the number of the victims in 11SEP very exactly BUT the victims of the palstinun and JEWS are not important to u ...
ANOTHER BIG WHY ??
because the number of the victims that killed by JEWS more ??
or BECAUSE WHAT ???
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Diana
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 494
Location: Guam, USA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:26 pm Post subject: To Silly Someone. |
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| someone wrote: |
(What matters to me is that the people who were killed were innocent. )
when u r very interested of the innecot victims u will be aware of that as autited issue include the number of the victims , the causes,and
the way that used to kill them ..and all thing that related of the issus ..
NOT THE ELEMENTS THAT U WANT ,, |
As I said, what matters to me is that the people who were killed are innocent. I already know they're dead. I was brought up being taught that killing innocent people is wrong, and that there is no excuse for the killing of innocents. My religion also teaches me that killing innocent is wrong and should always be condemned. What were you taught??????
| someone wrote: |
DIANA,,,, u are contradictory..
(: One of these 19 terrorists who lived in the United States saw a man watering flowers in the park. The terrorist took this as a sign that all Americans are materialistic people - simply because this one man was watering flowers. Instead of thinking that some Americans care about Mother Earth or their environment, he took it as proof that Americans are godless, materialistic people. So, what does this tell you about Al-Queda? )
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I thought the topic of our conversation is on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. What has Al-Queda have to do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
| someone wrote: |
-1- u were able to comment the trerrisom actions of the 19 trerrists BUT now u canot comment anymore of the jews actions ,,
WHY ,, is thir treatment with childern and innecot people familiar with u ??
or because u dont like to bother the JEWS feelings ??? |
I did not comment of the jews actions?????? If you look back at my previous posts, it does say that I am against the Jews killing innocent people. DUH!!!!! What does that mean to you? Isn't that commenting on the Jews' action?????? DUH!!!! I even gave you a simple example. Don't you remember when I told you that I'm against the Israeli soldier for killing the 10 year old boy throwing rocks?????????? Is my simple example too hard for you to understand???????
| someone wrote: |
2- u could remmeber the number of the victims in 11SEP very exactly BUT the victims of the palstinun and JEWS are not important to u ...
ANOTHER BIG WHY ??
because the number of the victims that killed by JEWS more ??
or BECAUSE WHAT ??? |
Someone, in all my posts, I have always said that I sympathize with ALL INNOCENTS. This is about the FIFTH time I told you that. Maybe, you should write it down before you go braindead again.
It's the killers, the murderers, criminals, and terrorists that I have NO sympathy for. My sympathies lie with ALL innocent victims. These innocent victims include the 911 attacks, the innocent Palestinians, the innocent Jews, the victims of the Bali and Kenya attacks, and all other innocent victims around the world. It's YOU who looks at numbers. I already told you in my last post that from 1937, I see BOTH Jews and Muslims killed by the MILLIONS. YOU only see the muslims killed because you don't care about any innocent people except the Palestinians. I care about ALL innocents, and that's why I said that I see BOTH jews and muslims killed by the MILLIONS. If you don't know the words "BOTH" and "MILLIONS," get a dictionary! Anyone reading my previous posts can see for themselves that I did say that "Starting from 1937, I see BOTH Jews and muslims killed by the MILLIONS." I also said that to me the loss of One innocent life is already too many.
It is YOU who sympathize with the murderers, Someone. You feel it is okay for Palestinan suicide bombers to kill innocents, but it's NOT okay for an Israeli soldlier to kill innocents. And the only reason you excuse the suicide bomber is because you say they killed LESS innocents than the Jews!!!!!
Do you not understand? If you EXCUSE the action of one murderer, then you must also EXCUSE the actions of all murderers. This is why I judge both Israel and the Palestinians as guilty for killing innocents. You, on the other hand, only judge the Jews for killing innocents and excuse the suicide bombers for blowing up innocent women and children in shopping malls.
I am against all criminals, murderers, killers, and terrorists. I don't excuse any of their actions? Why? Because there is no excuse or justification for killing innocent human beings. And I don't care if the killer is a muslim, jew, or christian. I condemn their actions. My sympathies lie only with the innocent victims. This has always been the main point in all my posts.
By the way, I did look at the weblinks you provided. ONE of those weblinks is a hate site. At any rate, I still sympathize with ALL INNOCENTS - and ALL INNOCENTS include the innocent Palestinians killed by the Israeli soldiers in their war against the militants. ALL INNOCENTS also includes the innocent Israelis killed by the Palestinian suicide bombers. I don't discriminate one innocent victim from another. An innocent victim is an innocent victim regardless of their race and religion. |
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Diana
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Who are you, Someone, and where are you from? Why do you try so hard to convince me to sympathize with innocent Palestinians, when I've already told you that I do sympathize with them. I sympathize with all innocents, which also includes innocent Palestinians who have been killed in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? I have never said that I don't sympathize with innocent Palestinians. So, what is the problem? |
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Isao
Joined: 18 May 2006
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I am sorry for �Columbia Shuttle�, but this case is good experience for people in the future, because I think it is needed to sacrifice anything a little to develop new things. For example, when people tunneled a long times ago, many people were buried alive and died. However, this experience made useful tunnels which we can see today. We can say same thing to develop the space. In short, NASA will learn by this case and they will develop better shuttle. That is why I think the case of �Columbia Shuttle� is good experience for future people. |
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