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rhonda
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 Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: What do I think of China? |
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I think China has a beautiful historical culture, amazing artifacts, a strong sense of artistic creativity.
Yet China imposses too many religious restrictions upon its people.
Are Christians able to freely pray? What happens if someone is caught with a Bible?
The remarks made by Element 105 makes me wary of every wanting to visit China. 
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rhonda
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exactly, thanks for long winded unwanted unwelcome lecture.
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mally subra
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: What you think of China |
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| Well, Rp has a narrow view of China. China has changed a lot. It is one of the fast developing country in Asia. Investors including those from USA are flocking in China to grab the abundant business opportunities available there. They are more open and relaxed in the policies. That's why more and more people are visiting China nowadays. A friend of mine, who is a 15-year old student visited China last year. He is a Christian and nothing happened to him. Perhaps you should visit China to get a true picture of China!!! |
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Bob S.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr.Admiral wrote: |
| There are some three million Catholics in China. Most belong to the state-approved church, while a minority recognize the Pope as their leader. |
I think that's the point when people say there is no freedom of religion in China. Of course there is religion in China (and such a wide variety), but only as the government permits. As you know, there are many denominations of Christianity and many varieties of Islam and Buddhism. What happens to people who wish to belong to sects that are not government approved? By what right does any government have to make laws to control how an individual soul seeks the divine? So you might understand how it seems not free for those of us from countries where every religion is legal (as long as its practitioners don't hurt anyone).
Question: Can a person who devoutly belongs to a religion become a government official? Historically, our experience with east European communist countries is that a person must be an atheist if they wish to become a communist party member and a government official. What is the situation in China today? |
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ricky777
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| well, i like China a lot. I like how the people can be happy and have fun about little things. |
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Bob S.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr.Admiral wrote: |
hi, Bob, additional:
I'm trying to find out which churches are not "state-approved". Could you perhaps help me? That would be very kind. |
Hello,
It is difficult to find exact information. Perhaps only the CCP has official lists of approved churches or mosques. One detailed report I found is this report from the U.S. State Department: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2002/13870.htm
Particular of interest is this paragraph:
"Section II. Status of Religious Freedom
The State reserves to itself the right to register and thus to allow to operate particular religious groups and spiritual movements...
There are six requirements for the registration of 'venues for religious activity:'
possession of a physical site;
citizens who are religious believers and who regularly take part in religious activity;
an organized governing board;
a minimum number of followers;
a set of operating rules;
and a legal source of income.
The Government officially permits only those churches affiliated with either the Catholic Patriotic Association or the (Protestant) Three-Self Patriotic Movement/Chinese Christian Council to operate legally. Some groups register voluntarily, some register under pressure, and the authorities refuse to register others. Some religious groups have been reluctant to comply with the regulations out of principled opposition to state control of religion or due to fear of adverse consequences if they reveal, as required, the names and addresses of church leaders. Unregistered groups also frequently claim that theological compromises, lack of doctrinal freedom, and stricter control over sermons by the RAB result from registration, which is why they do not register with the Government. Unofficial groups claimed that authorities often refused them registration without explanation. The Government contended that these refusals mainly were the result of these groups' lack of adequate facilities."
I found a few other sites hosted by Christian missionary groups with testimony of witnesses who claimed they were persecuted and some even tortured because they belonged to un-registered churches. But not much specific about what denominations were permitted or forbidden.
It seems any denomination can technically be official if they are large enough to meet the requirements and rent or buy facilities to meet. The problem is many new churches start very small, just a few people meeting in somebody's home. So these would be illegal and have to hide until they grew to an arbitrary threshold size so they can register. |
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ateeq
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| Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Hello to All,
I'm an Esl teacher in China for the past two years.Besides my teaching I'm doing my religious activities and I found no problem.I have been to different parts of China and found that Chinese people are not much active in religious practise.
Only in Northwest where Islam is on the top.Most of chinese people are secular.Well,what I'm trying to say is that religion belongs to someone believe.And we shouldn't blaim religion.
All the best!
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joyjee
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: MY GREAT CHINA, I LOVE U SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH |
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| U CAN'T KNOW HOW WE CHINESE LOVE MY COUNTRY ! |
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toninho
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: Living in China |
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 Hi , I'm currently living in Macao SAR which is an integral part of China. Apart from the very hot and humid weather, Macao is a wonderful place to live in. The people are extremely friendly and the food is... out of this world. I mean, you've got to try it to fall in love with it. The people out here all speak Cantonese which is a dialect of the Guandong province and is also spoken mainly in other provinces in southern China.  Welcome to Macau. Here is our website: http://www.cityguide.gov.mo/I'm sure you'll find it interesting! |
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Heath
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Hi, I am a student in Macau.
I think there are many Chinese cultures we should know. For example, Chinese people don�t like the chopsticks putting into the bowl of rice when having lunch or dinner. Second, Chinese people don�t like the other people putting their hands on their shoulders when they are first meeting or they are friends too. Furthermore, most Chinese people are like to grip hands with other to show their friendship.
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Wilson Leong
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi , I am a university of Macau student . I think that if you are live in
China, you must not say something or do something with other people.
For example: you can�t call people �Chinese man� because it is impolite.
On the other hand, you can�t turn down your thumb show the people that
you will be fire in word with other people and don�t hit a table in anywhere,
if you don�t want to die. You must remember this, if you don�t want to have any trouble. |
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RedRose
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Wilson Leong wrote: |
| For example: you can�t call people �Chinese man� because it is impolite. |
Contrary to your opinion, you can call any Chinese person Chinese man or Chinese woman. no problem!
I wonder where you got such a viewpoint? why would we get angry when some foreigners call us that way? no, we don't! you are definitely wrong. |
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rudolf
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Hi, I am a university student in Macao SAR.
China is the one of the eldest country in the world. So that there are many custom are different from other countries.
For instance:if we cross under a ladder, we would get a bad luck.
If we break a mirror, we would get a bad luck after sever years!!
There are many taboos in china different from other countries.
Such as bats: In the Occident, the bats are inauspicious.
But in china, the bats are meaning good fortune because of it�s pronounced just like the word 福(good fortune).
I think that the Chinese conventions customs are very specially, but the other countries have their own conventions customs. So that I think knowing the customs of different countries are very interesting. |
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Charles Cheang
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| Hi! I�m student of university of Macau; there is different culture in different country, for example, in western country, when the people see other people in the first time, especially when the man see a pretty woman, they will kiss their hand .they think that this behavior is polite. But in Chinese, people don�t like this, because Chinese people think that it is impolite .Chinese people don�t like other people touch them. If you think this example is not good, I will give you other example .for example, in western country, when you have a dinner with parents, if you finish your dinner you can go out but in Chinese, although you finish your dinner, you can�t go out .because people think that it is not completely about family, if you finish your dinner, you can go out unless other people finish their dinner. So this two example show that there are different between Chinese culture and western culture. |
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RedRose
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. basically, Chinese people tend to be more modest. if a man kisses a woman, usually, we think that is a sexual action, less or more. |
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