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Hank898989 · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Taipei,Taiwan

okay, so u feel that China should own Taiwan. WHy though ur just getting angry about something and not giving us reasons this is bull$hit. NOt only are you wrong in the first place but you don't suppport ur argument. Be smart about it at LEAST give reason for your anger.
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Taiwan is not a part of China!!

Hank898989 · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Taipei,Taiwan

[quote="dragon2008"]In my company , there are many people that come from Taiwan. Through the daily chat, I knew that their original family home located in Shangxi,jiangsu or other place of mainland. They all agree with that Taiwan is a part of china.[/quote]

well, if you trace almost anyones origins back far enough you will run into their being from another cuontry. The reason that you are so mad about the separation is the fact that it happened so recently. Just wait, in 50 more years this will have blow over. Even if it doesn't the fact that you want Taiwan to be part of China is unreasonable. THe fact that your ruler wasn't smart enough to finish the job of crushing a rebellion is not the fault of the Taiwanese. Since your a respected business man why don't you contact the government and ask them why they are too lazy to finish off the Taiwanese rebellion. THen you will have your answer as to why Taiwan is a separate country.
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james3392 · Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 6

Actually i had discuss this question with some chinese . They holding extreme views between twiwan and china. I am Taiwanese not chinaese
. You should not agree what i say ,but i have to tell you . Almost every Taiwanes like taiwan more like your suck country . WHY I SAY THAT?
Please think about what your goverment had do . If you want to say we have some language that i have to ask you a question :how old are you? did you had learned history before? Do you know where is Europe?
If you can answer all of question which i ask , please listen to me. In Europe ,not every country have their own lauguage. For example , switzerland is a country which language use German ,but switzerland is not part of Germany , is same between taiwan and china. We have some lauguage but different accent . We have some skin but different culture . Taiwan is a country ,we are not belong to canda . So please dont say thing about TAWAN IS A PART OF CHINA.........OK?

angya · Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 11

culture differ from China is a factor,too
where is your culture come from, what is the different?
Where is your history.and what is you depended on ?

james3392 · Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 6

THE QUESTION I CAN ANSWER YOU IS WE ARE A NEW COUNTRY
For example , japan is a country , why dont you ask japen is part of chana? They use a part of chinese word , but they are japen which is a rich country in the world . Also in taiwan, we use 100 years to agree we are taiwanese ,it cause our goverment gave us worng knowledge when we was a child. Everything will change with time , our thought was changed when we find wrong.

james3392 · Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 6

THE QUESTION I CAN ANSWER YOU IS WE ARE A NEW COUNTRY
For example , japan is a country , why dont you ask japen is part of chana? They use a part of chinese word , but they are japen which is a rich country in the world . Also in taiwan, we use 100 years to agree we are taiwanese ,it cause our goverment gave us worng knowledge when we was a child. Everything will change with time , our thought was changed when we find wrong.

victor2008x · Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 1

I am from TAIWAN. And I'm a Taiwanese.
I don't care "TAIWAN" belong to Taiwan or China government.
I just know China are so powerful now.
The things you buy are almost marked "MADE IN CHINA".
And very soon. It will become "DESIGN IN CHINA".
I just want to stand on the Giants' Shoulders.
So Taiwan belongs to China.
And If TAIWAN + CHINA + HK, then we'll become the biggest Conutry
in the world.
And then USA, JAPAN , EVEN THE EUROPE ARE NOTHING.
Because WE CHINESE WILL BEAT YOU.
If you are not a Chinese , YOU WILL LOSE you JOB very soon.
Because product made in China are so cheap.
AND We will get all the resources of the World.
Because Every businessman will invest CHINA.
WE WILL CONTROL EVERYTHING OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Hank898989 · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Taipei,Taiwan

You are really funny.
You from Taiwan. But you like China.
F U C King you goddamn the son of the b i t c h...
You say TW+CHINA+HK will be the strongest country of the world.
HaHa....You are silly.
How about USA+EU+Russia?
Which side is more powerful?
I pee in my pants and laugh so hard!!!
Give up your that fool daydream and go back to DO YOUR MOTHER!!!!!!
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Hayde · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Icheon, Korea

victor2008x, many things are made in China now. But when I was living there, the reason so much is made there is because of cheap labour. Many of my Chinese friends only had one day off a month. China will not be able to continue this forever and will have to raise it's employment standards. When this happens, companies will move to other places. I really like China and it is progressing at an amazing rate. And I also love Chinese people, but right now China is the leading producer because of "near slave labour". If you are happy that your country is GREAT because poor people have very bad lives so you can live a good life, all I can say is I pity you. Don't get me wrong, rich people live off poor people in EVERY country, but I have seen the average Chinese worker's life, and I don't think you can be proud of that. I am sorry to all my Chinese friends, but that is how I see it.
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amandaunec · Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 10

No no no no no no no no no no ,you opinion is very funny, do you know chinese clture? this a insult!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hayde · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Icheon, Korea

amandaunec, who are you talking to Smile

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Hank898989 · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Taipei,Taiwan

Hayde.........I think you are from North Korea...
The really democraic people are free...
You are not us!!!
You should show your STUPID opion on this wedsite!!!
I laugh so hard and pee in my pants!!~
What a Stupid people you are!!
Go back your home and eat your mama's milk...
Find your father and F U C K up his ass!~
I warn you!!BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Taiwan is not a part of China!!

Hayde · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Icheon, Korea

Hank898989 · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Taipei,Taiwan

ha!~My level is low?
Sorry!~Not as low as you!~
You know NOTHING on the Taiwan and China history..
I am Taiwanese!~I know all the history of my country!!
It's our busniess, not you Korea~~
The fool people who know nothing says the fake thing of the real history...
It's the STUPIDEST thing I have EVER heard!!!!!!!
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Taiwan is not a part of China!!

admiral · Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 546

Stop to fight, that's not good
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