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RedRose



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: for or against? Reply with quote

Today I read an English novel in which I read such a sentence:

Did you say for or against just now?

thios sentence confused me a lot.

I know for is a prep or a conj, and against is a prep. but in this sentence, both become very unintelligible Shocked

Can anyone help me with this question? thanks in advance.
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Vin21



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is just the speaker who didn't hear exactly what the person said to him,so he asked.
Did you say 'for' just now?
Did you say 'against' just now?
Are you for the proposal?
Are you against the proposal?
Say it again ,ask or for?
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Vin21



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

against or for? Laughing
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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the context was:

there is a conferent where 5 ladies are discussing about weekend activity, Lady A suggests that they should go outside for a picnic, and people start to discuss about this suggestion, at that time, Lady B is n't listening to them, instead, she is reading a magazine.finally, the conference finished. lady B asks lady C:"how will we spend our weekend? a picnic? did you say for or against?"

that is it.
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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the context was:

there is a conferent where 5 ladies are discussing about weekend activity, Lady A suggests that they should go outside for a picnic, and people start to discuss about this suggestion, at that time, Lady B is n't listening to them, instead, she is reading a magazine.finally, the conference finished. lady B asks lady C:"how will we spend our weekend? a picnic? did you say for or against?"

that is it.
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Vin21



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedRose wrote:
I know for is a prep or a conj, and against is a prep. but in this sentence, both become very unintelligible
Can anyone help me with this question? thanks in advance.

Sorry!I don't know how to answer this question. Embarassed
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stellara



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd say that just means that lady B wants to know if lady C is for the suggestion of going outside for a picnic or if she's against it. maybe lady b thinks that Lady C is a very trustworthy person so she could just say "I agree with lady C" Laughing

generally:

to be for it/a suggestion/plan .. = to approve it/agree with it ..

to be against it/ .. = to disapprove it/disagree with it ..

okay? greets Wink
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Vin21



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to explain like this:

Did you say "for or against"?
just like
Did you say "yes or no"?
Did you say "that"?

So,"for or against" here functions as "that"---->a noun or what?(Sorry,I don't know exactly)

if you say:
Are you for/against the suggestion?------>here "for/against" functions as a prep.
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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now I combine stellara's explanation and Vin21's, the answer is pretty clear. yeah, stellara, the lady B was asking for ladyC's thoughts. and Vin21, you are also right, she was asking "yes" or "no". from the context, both's analyses make sense.

thanks, stellara and Vin21!
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stellara



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem Laughing
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