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[RedRose]

When I was a college student, one of my teachers once told us:"Physically, men are more aggressive and active than women, due to hormone's level." after the teacher finished his speech, I asked him why? why? what hormone?

the teacher answered: "testosterone. that's the main reason."
"BUT women have hormone too! women have estrogen! dosen't estrogen work?" I asked .
"of course it works, but not as much and fierce as testosterone dose. another example: mostly, men are more appearance-oriented than women, especially when they want a date. that's a kind of physiological reaction, simply, it's due to testosterone" my teacher answered

Even now, I still disgree about his opinion. I tend to think his opinion as some sexism.

What do you think? guys? do you think Men are more hormone-oriented than women?

[stellara]

hi redrose

of course you're right, women do have estrogen but it works different than testosterone.
at first i want to say that both women and men have estrogen and testosterone! the difference is just the amount and the concentration that is in their body. therefore women have more estrogen, men have more testosterone.
generally you can say that testosterone is more important in the female body than estrogen is in the male's. testosterone stimulates the bone growth in the child's developement, raises the muscle mass and lowers the blood cholesterol level with women as well as men. it also stimulates the libido. if there's too much testosterone in the female body, the woman can adopt male characteristics, in features as well as in personality.
so much about the facts - of which i hope they are right because it's a really complicated matter

the reason why your teacher says that men are generally more aggressive and active than women is psychology and evolution i think. if you think of the times where humans kived in caves and there was a clear role allocation for women (to mostly stay in the caves, educate and care for the babies/children, sometimes go out and collect some berries ) and for men (to go out and hunt, make sure that there's enough food for the family, protect them against enemies and so on..) it's natural that men are more aggressive. they had to be because otherwise they hadn't been able to defence their family.

and what you said about men being hormone-oriented, it's not like they're able to choose if they want to be more aggressive. if there's a high testosterone level in your body (like there's in the male's) you have actually no choice than being so, because you can't act against nature, in this case hormones.

[RedRose]

stellara, I must admit you are a surprise for me!! you know? I thought, on the forum, it was only me who knows about the truth: both men and women have estrogen as well as testosterone, and just a difference of amount.

I know you are a teenager, you even know about so much medical knowledge! that's amazing!

Speaking of hormone, I have some different opinions than you. I don't think hormone has anything to do with personality. and I don't think homone can explain why men want many lovers and women want just one. actually, some women want more lovers too, and some men want just one too. I didn't find any statistic proof to expain that.

anyway, even now, I still feel astonished for your medical knowledge!

[admiral]

An expert in biology.
Then if a guy has more estrogen than normal, he will become gay?
Nice to know.
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[stellara]

thanks i really like this issue, i read some books about it, so i know pretty much.
i believe the explanation about why men tend to have many lovers and women don't. it sounds quite logical to me.
but i think sexism is something else. if a boss says he doesn't want to give you the job because you're a woman, that's sexism.
but as you can see almost everywhere, men are more aggressive than woman. they have more fum in watching violent movies, with many action scenes and less sense. they like sports like soccer t get rid of their energy. some men tend to get violent or aggressive when they are provoked, women rather become cruel in their language. all these are indications that men are quite more aggressive by nature. that has little to do with a man's personality, though!
ciao, have to go - i'm going to the cinema now
greets
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[Hardi]

I understand nothing... It's all total *beep*! Well if I understand the meaning of the word "oriented" correctly, then I will say that I'm boobs oriented and hormones don't mean nothing! Hormones are can attract only over educated and crazy professors!

[stellara]

okay, maybe you should read more carefully..
i don't know if you're boobs oriented, i don't know you, but i never said that hormones mean nothing. i said that they mean pretty much! and not only with men, also women are 'hormone-oriented' if you want to call it like that.. just in another way.
greets
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