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dawn0102
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 Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: Need a little help on some pronoun problems... |
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Please help...which of the following two words works better in this sentence...
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| Give the outline to whoever/whomeveris going to the meeting. |
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Bob S.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Need a little help on some pronoun problems... |
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| dawn0102 wrote: |
Please help...which of the following two words works better in this sentence...
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| Give the outline to whoever/whomeveris going to the meeting. |
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Who is used for subjects.
Whom is used for direct objects and object of prepositions.
This case is tricky because in this case "___ever is going to the meeting" is a noun phrase serving as the whole object of the preposition to. ___ever becomes a new subject for the phrase (is going is the verb), so you would go with whoever.
Change it around a bit:
Give it to ___ever you like.
In this case, "___ever you like" is the noun phrase object of the preposition, but you is the subject. ___ever would be the direct object, so you would use whomever.
Makes sense? Does anybody have a counter argument? |
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bud
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Well done and very clear... as usual! |
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Bob S.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks. I had to wrack my brain on that one. |
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dawn0102
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: whoever/whomever |
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Thanks Bob  Didn't mean to make ya rack your brain I have to get 80% correct on a few vocabulary tests in a Business Ocupations Training course.... a MS Word 2000 course and this part is just a small portion of it...I still need a little(lot)of help on some other "sticky" questions...I'll relay some and be super appreciative for some help.
Who/Whom did you ask to attend the convention?
He is taller than I/me.
Who/Whom is taking over for Mr. Garcia?
He gave the book to Harry and I/me.
I'm not sure whether it's their's/theirs or not.
Who/Whomever you promote should be qualified. |
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LucentShade
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| Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:14 am Post subject: Re: whoever/whomever |
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| dawn0102 wrote: |
Who/Whom did you ask to attend the convention?
*whom -- Think of the answer: "I asked Bob to attend the convention" = "I asked -him- to . . ." him is an object, so you need the object "whom."
He is taller than I/me.
*technically speaking, the answer should be "I," because what the sentence means to say is "He is taller than I am." However, you will most likely hear "than me" in conversation. For the test, go with "I" (or he/she in sentences like "I am shorter than him/he" ~ should be "he").
Who/Whom is taking over for Mr. Garcia?
*who ~ again, answer the question, with something like "I am taking over for Mr. Garcia." I = subject, so the answer is "who" (Btw, the average NS probably wouldn't know why this was right or wrong.)
He gave the book to Harry and I/me.
*me ~ in these situations, "kill" the other person:
He gave the book to I. (wrong)
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He gave the book to me. (right)
If you look at it without the other person, it should be more clear that in this case you need the object, me.
I'm not sure whether it's their's/theirs or not.
*theirs. "their's" is never correct, despite what many may think. "Theirs" is a possessive pronoun like yours, his, hers, ours, and does not need an apostrophe, just like the others on the list.
Who/Whomever you promote should be qualified. |
I'll let you handle this one...again, answer the question, in the format:
"Mark is qualified, so I will promote ****." What can go in the spot after "promote," "he" or "him"? That should indicate who/whomever. For the question. |
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