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BMO
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:42 am Post subject: Terrible and terrific |
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| These two words have opposite meanings but are from the same root. Is there a name for it in grammar? |
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bud
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know of any... I just want to say that "terrific" does not always mean something unusually positive. You could say, "There was a terrific explosion at the refinery last night." You could replace "terrific" with "terrible" or "enormous" or several other synonyms. |
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advoca
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dear BMO,
Yes there is a word. New words that are derived from a root word are called derivatives or derivations.
A root word is one to which prefixes and suffixes can be added to form different words.
The root word help, for example, can be built up into the derivatives helpful, unhelpful, helpless, helper and more. |
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BMO
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Bud and advoca,
I remember now, you can say I have a terrific headache. Okay, help is a root word, are all the root words English? Latin terrere, to frighten, is the root for terrific and terrible, is terrere a root word or just a root?
Terrific has two opposite meanings? One is bad and one is good. Is there a name for words like terrific? |
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bud
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: |
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I don't know of such a word. Do you, Advoca?
Look at what askoxford.com has to say about terrific:
"1 of great size, amount, or intensity. 2 (informal) excellent. 3 (archaic) causing terror."
Note that the original meaning was the same as its Latin origin (3). Then it evolved to mean something extraordinarily large or intense (1). (That's neutral regarding whether it's positive or negative.) It is only an informal use when we use it to mean excellent (2). |
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advoca
Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 422 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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BMO asked three questions
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| I remember now, you can say I have a terrific headache. Okay, help is a root word, are all the root words English? Latin terrere, to frighten, is the root for terrific and terrible, is terrere a root word or just a root? |
No; not all root words are English. And roots and root words mean the same thing. Terrere is a root word and it is the root of terrible.
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| Terrific has two opposite meanings? One is bad and one is good. Is there a name for words like terrific? |
Yes. They are usually called Auto-antonyms but have variously been called contranyms, contronyms, antilogies, Janus words (after the two-faced Greek mythical figure), and enantiodromes.
Examples of auto-antonymns are:
Clip: to fasten together or to cut off (with shears)
Handicap: an advantage (a golf handicap) or a disadvantage or a disability
Left: He hurriedly left the building. He was left standing at the door.
Splice: To join together (Splice two ropes together) or to split (With his axe he spliced the logs in two)
Table: to propose (to suggest) or to postpone (to shelve).
Bolt: The door was bolted securely. The horse suddenly bolted from the stable.
Dust: Dust the cake with fine sugar or to dust the furniture (to remove the dust)
I hope this helps.
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BMO
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Good lord, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a million, and have a happy New Year.
How will you celebrate the new year in China?
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advoca
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| With lots of fireworks, crackers and bangers. Very noisy! |
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