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advoca



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Deep impression Reply with quote

Would any teacher help me please.

My Chinese students often use the expression: Something gave me a deep impression. I tell them this is wrong. I say you get a deep impression if you emboss something. I tell them they should say they got a favourable impression.

Am I wrong to correct them over this?

Advice would be welcome.
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LucentShade



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a teacher (of English), but after looking through some Google results for the phrase, I saw some uses that involved printing/embossing and other physical processes, but also many instances where it was used idiomatically, in the way that your students are using it. In my own experience, "X made a deep impression on me" is a valid way to say, "X had a profound impact that lasted long after the event was over." Also, "deep impression" can refer to a negative or traumatic experience, so "favo(u)rable" might not work in all cases.

Final verdict: Technically, you're probably right that "deep impression" doesn't really have the meaning that your students ascribe to it, but it's one of those phrases that is very often used "incorrectly" by English speakers.

Edit: After looking through it, I do believe that "made a deep impression on [ ]" is more correct. "Gave" isn't so common in this phrase.


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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A deep impression as a meaningful and lasting feeling is fine, but I would say it made an impression, not gave an impression.

Alternate forms:
It made a deep impression on me.
It was deeply impressive to me.
I was deeply impressed by it.
It deeply impressed me.

Favourably impressed or favourable impression is for something positive, but deeply impressed can be for something positive or negative.
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advoca



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.
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BMO



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"It gave me a deep impression" is exactly the English translation of Chinese, word for word.

Thanks.
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clonc



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My Chinese students often use the expression: Something gave me a deep impression. I tell them this is wrong. I say you get a deep impression if you emboss something. I tell them they should say they got a favourable impression.


May I make a suggestion? If you get a deep impression then the experience is imprinted on your memory. For example: �The 911 attack left a deep impression on me. I shall remember it for a long time.�

The assassination of President Kennedy made a deep impression on me. (I shall remember it for a long time.)

Test the correct use of the expression by adding (I shall remember it for a long time) after the sentence. If the experience is not one that you will remember for a long time then it did not make a deep impression.

For example, �I heard his speech and I thought it was impressive.� (Although it made a favourable impression on me I shall not remember it after a while.)
Or, �I heard his speech and it made a deep impression on me.� (I shall remember it for a long time.)

If the impression is deep it remains in the memory for a long time.
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