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[hela]

Dear teachers,

Is this sentence incorrect ?
"The visibility was poor ENOUGH for the mountains to be seen."
If yes, how would you use "enough" in such a sentence, please ?

Kind regards,
Hela

[obelix]

I think in this case it would be more normal to say the visibility was good enough for the mountains to be seen.

[hela]

Dear teachers,

Seeing sentences made by my fellow students I'm getting now very confused. So would you please tell me which ones are correct, if there are any? And if there are some which are correct are they all used with an intensifier?

a) The visibility was poor enough for the mountains to be seen. (=incorrect)

b) The visibility was poor enough that mountains couldn't be seen.

c) There wasn't enough visibility for the mountains to be seen.

d) There were such a lot of people at the party that there was no room to move.

e) We hadn't expected such an exhausting trip.

f) we really had a good meal last night.

If someone is doing a study on students mistakes this is worth a piece of research, don't you think?

A different questions all toghether please. When is the word "morning" (& Co) used as an adverb and not a noun?

See you soon,

Hela

[pugachevV]

a). is the only one that is unusual. The English would normally not use poor except in a negative context. If you can still see the mountains that's not negative, I think, unless you add, but we could not see the climbers or something like that. The actual construction of the sentence is correct, but there is not really a negative meaning, so the word poor is out of place.

You can say, The visibility was poor enough to prevent us climbing the mountain, for example, because prevent has a negative meaning.

[Bob S.]

[hela]

Hi Bob,

1) Would you say that the following sentence is clumsy and non-idiomatic?

d) There were such a lot of people at the party that there was no room to move.

2) Are ENOUGH, SUCH and REALLY in the following sentences used as intensifiers? If not to which grammatical category do they belong to?

c) There wasn't enough visibility for the mountains to be seen.

e) We hadn't expected such an exhausting trip.

f) We really had a good meal last night.

[mukemmale]

[hela]

And what does "really" emphasize in "We really had a good meal last night"?