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burco_lion
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 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: what do you think about "what happened is denmark" |
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as we all know 2 weeks ago there where cartoons in a news paper which comes from denmark and that was a pictures about prophet mohamed Peace be upon him so what do you think?
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mukemmale
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It was not a wise thing to do cos you know picturing of Mohammed is definitely forbidden in Islam and it was clear that this cartoon would attract criticism from the Muslim world. As expected there are protests all around the world against Europe and Denmark and I fear this might trigger yet another wave of terrorist attack  I wish Danes were a little more careful about what they were drawing.
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eda
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| mukemmale wrote: |
| I fear this might trigger yet another wave of terrorist attack |
So do I
'coz some conservative ones have already started protesting heavily.
I dont think we will learn how to live like humans.I admire animals
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admiral
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Don't participate in the war, don't help people to kill people, then nothing will happen to you.
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stellara
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: |
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that's really too simple. most of those people who did in terrorist attacks were righteous people who did neither participate in a war nor helped anyone killing s.o. - far from kill theirselves..
it's just naive to think that this
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| Don't participate in the war, don't help people to kill people, then nothing will happen to you. |
will help..  it's sad though
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admiral
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of course, 11.9. was because of the european/american expansion and imperialism, where they killed people.
If they hadn't killed them, terrorist attacks today wouldn't have happened.
As mukemmale said, now europeans painted cartoons directing to the muslim belief, and soon another terrorist attacks may come.
History is too deep to be helped.
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eda
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: |
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History is to deep to be helped. |
or..
Things are not what they seem,makes no sense at all
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stellara
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| admiral wrote: |
of course, 11.9. was because of the european/american expansion and imperialism, where they killed people.
If they hadn't killed them, terrorist attacks today wouldn't have happened. |
so do you think we should have stayed in the 18th century? there were always wars, in every century, for every reason..
it seems that humans can't live happily and peaceful together-- i doubt that this will ever change.
sorry i'm offtopic 
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| It was not a wise thing to do cos you know picturing of Mohammed is definitely forbidden in Islam and it was clear that this cartoon would attract criticism from the Muslim world. |
isn't the second Commandment in the bible "You shall have no other gods besides Me...Do not make a sculpted image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above..." ? and you can find funny/ironic/sarcastic whatever images of jesus/god all around the world and in the web - no Christian does terrorist attacks because of that..
just a thought i wondered about...
you can't change history - you only can change the future.
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hani
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Of course i dont' accept these Cartoons . I think no one can insult Pape by drawing him just like that . There is a big difference between freedom and respect others.
Reaction by supermarket managers in the Islamic countries to the controversial
cartoons published in the Danish and Norwegian media is patchy. In some supermarkets, gaps with labels in English and Arabic, indicate that Danish products have been withdrawn; in others shelves were fully stocked with familiar Danish products .
DANISH WILL LOSS 2 MUCH BY STUPIDTY DRAWER
BOYCOTT DANISH PRODUCTS
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hector
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| stellara wrote: |
| mukemmale wrote: |
| It was not a wise thing to do cos you know picturing of Mohammed is definitely forbidden in Islam and it was clear that this cartoon would attract criticism from the Muslim world. |
isn't the second Commandment in the bible "You shall have no other gods besides Me...Do not make a sculpted image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above..." ? and you can find funny/ironic/sarcastic whatever images of jesus/god all around the world and in the web - no Christian does terrorist attacks because of that..
just a thought i wondered about...
you can't change history - you only can change the future. |
Well, They are not simple drawings meant to embody critics, They imply that the essence of islam is terrorism, which is not true. The way you can view those drawings varies. There were cartoons of Jews prior to ww2! So in this context you can regard them either as simple funny/ironic/sarcastic cartoons, or islamphobia, which makes the case more complicated especially when it is revealed that the same Dannish newspaper previously refused to publish the "Cartoons of Jesus Christ" in order not to offend the Christian readers. The freedom of press does not mean "freedom of offending or insulting " .
Nevertheless these things never justify the extremists who have the habbit of taking innocent lives for their fanatism,ignorance,arrogance and passion. What they are doing with the Dannish embassies is indeed silly. I have always thought: " the Prophet Mohammad would be more concered with muslims' being less educated, undeveloped and not modern enough, than what a stupid Dannish paper prints, if he had been alive" |
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stellara
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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yeah i'm sorry, i just heard about them, though i never saw them! so i can't say if they are just cartoons or if they are real bad like you said.
it makes sense nevertheless - what you wrote i mean.
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admiral
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| stellara wrote: |
so do you think we should have stayed in the 18th century? there were always wars, in every century, for every reason..
it seems that humans can't live happily and peaceful together-- i doubt that this will ever change.
sorry i'm offtopic
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I think school or media should have let people known about the potential things (in religion, culture) which could lead in terrorist attacks or wars. That won't be a very big help but at least then we will understand why USA really attacked Iraq and what the terrorist attacks are for.
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That's a nice quote. But we also have to do something according to it. What are the presidents for? What is UNO for?
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Sirius
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: |
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If you want to protest the cartoons, then do it peacefully.
Violence and the calls for death to the cartoonist merely feed the stereotype that Muslims are violent.
The Danish government also has no authority over the newspaper that printed them. So to penalize all Danish people/industry for the actions of 1 newspaper is also wrong |
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admiral
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's why this act is bad
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pugachevV
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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They are being encouraged to riot by the governments of Syria and Iran,
No demonstration can take place in Syria or Iran without the government allowing it.
I guess they think it will take the heat off their own poor performance. |
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