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[BMO]

Getting peppered with birdshot is a common occurrence among upland bird hunters.


Washington Post's John Pomfret quoted the above from Charles Soechting, the chair of the Texas Democratic Party, of the hunting accident.

I read the article in San Jose Mercury News, under this title:

"Texas lawyer leaves hospital, says he regrets Cheney's ordeal," written by John Pumfret, Washingtoin Post.

1. If you are quoting the sentence, whom do you give credit to, Soechting, Pomfret, Washington Post, or San Jose Mercury News?

2. The sentence, among upland bird hunters. Is it a common knowledge among these bird hunters or is it common for bird hunters to get shot?

3. If it were from a reporter of a wire serive such as AP, instead of a newspaper, what do you do?

Thanks.

bmo

[iitimone7]

good morning, bmo...since no one has answered you, let me try to help.

1. ~you give credit to the person to whom you are quoting
"OUCH, that hurt!" screamed eileen when she fell.
~if no one specific said OUCH, but it was reported in the paper, then the paper gets the credit.
The News Sentinal (name of the paper) reports that someone fell in the park today while jogging with their dog.

2. both - bird hunters know that when they shoot at birds, pellets from weapon go in many, many directions at once. some of the pellets hit the bird, some will hit the tree if you're standing next to one, and a few may travel backward and hit the shooter. protective clothing is always worn by the shooters so that they do not get hurt as badly as if they did not wear it at all.

3. If you are directly quoting word for word, use quotes and the source that said it. If you are simply reporting that it happened and it is not necessary to quote from someone word for word, add the word that to the sentence.

examples -
"I saw everything! I was standing back by the tree as he shot at the bird, but the other man didn't look to see that someone was shooting and he stepped right in front of the weapon when it went off," said Sheila, a reseident of the area.
The wire service repoted late last night that a man was accidentally shot when he walked in front of a shooter just as the weapon discharged a shot.

hope that helps a little ~~ iitimone7

[Veravera]

May I ask a question here?
What are the meanings of the following terms?

1. Give credit where credit is due
2. give credit to
3. get the credit

Thanks!

[bud]

In your examples, credit means praise, appreciation, gratitude, admiration - those kinds of attitudes.

1. This would be used in a situation where the one deserving credit is not receiving it. Sometimes they might be getting criticism instead.

Ex.: Yes, Anne-Marie can be a little over-agressive at times, but give credit where credit is due. We would never have won that contract without her involvement.

2. This is similar to #1 except that there is no connotation that the one deserving praise is not getting it. (It also could be used in a financial context: If I give credit to someone, I'm allowing them to buy something and pay for it later.)

Ex.: This is a wonderful opportunity for our company. I have to give credit to our fine sales staff for all their efforts on this contract.

3. Get the praise.

Ex.: This is a wonderful opportunity for our company. Our incredible development team gets the credit for this one!

[Veravera]

Thanks bud,
You've totally solved my problem.