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tokyomocker



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: until/by Reply with quote

I was asked to clarify the difference between the use of until and by today, and unfortunately struggled to come up with a clear model for the different uses. Any ideas?
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Meadowlark



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm assuming you want to compare "until today" and "by today". If this is not correct please let me know.

Short answer:

Until today - something changes as of today

By today - something ends today


Long answer:

Until today - establishes a point in time where a change occurs. It implies that things will be different from this point on.

Examples: Until today I did not know how to use an electric drill. (Now I know how to use one.)

Until today the caf� had always been open for lunch and dinner. (Now it is only open for lunch.)


By today - indicates that something will come to an end. There is no direct connection to anything in the future.

Examples:

The package should have been received by today.

All reports were due by today.

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Does this model work for you?
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