Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums

[cucurrucucu]

I do not hate Japanese people,but I hate Japan as a nation, not beause of WWII,but beause of what they have done atfer the war,no a official apology,no a compensation,even they attempted to cover up their criminals and tried to regard that as nothing to happen.

Now,I want to show you just two things done by Japan in WWII.Don't suspect of what i will tell you,maybe to other country's youth in the world they know a little about that,so i just want you to know the truth,the forgotten history.

First,that is the WMD Biological Warfare.
This WMD Biological Warfare is definitely the worst crime case of systematic biological massacre against Humanity committed by a country in our Human History.

"The fellow knew that it was over for him,so he didn't struggle."recalled the old former medical assitant of a Japanese Army unit in China in world WarII,"but when i picked up the scalpel that's when he began screming.i cut him open from the chest to the stomach,and he screamed terribly,and his face was all twisted in agony.he made this unimaginable sound,he was screaming so horribly.but then finally he stopped."the former medical assitant who insisted on anonymity,explained the reason for the vivisection.the chinese prisoners have been deliberately infected with plague as part of a research project.

Imperial Japan's biological killing fields are a lost chapter of history that the full horror of which is only recently been exposed and understood in all its enormity.

Japan set up headquarters of unit 731 in Ping Fan near Harbin and Unit 100 in ChangChun,ShenYang,in China to develop plague bombs for use in WWII.The base was disguised as Epidemic Prevention and Water Supply Unit.The complex in Ping Fan was completed in 1939,contained more than 150 buildings,including 2 secret prions and 3 crematoria,and was the largest WMD Biological Weapon research center in the world.

After infecting him,the researchers decided to cut him open alive,tear him apart,organ by organ,to see what the disease does to a man's inside.Often no anesthetic was used,he said,out of concern that it might have an effect on the results.

From July 1993 to Dec.1994,the "Unit 731 Exhibition"toured Japan and presented at 61 locations over the course of one and half year.It had sent shockwaves throughout Japan,HalGold had collected many testimonies in his book"Unit 731: Testimony;Japan's Wartime Human Experimentation and the Post-War Cover-Up".One of the testimonies was provided by an aged former Japanese doctor Kurumizawa Masakuni.

Second,that is the Nanjing massacre.

1937 Dec.,Japanese military force started murdering civilians and PoWs in China under the military policy"Three All Policy"--"Kill All,Loot All,Burn All" after they issued the official military order--"Kill All Captives".Japanese soldier began an orgy of cruelty seldom,if ever,matched in mordern History.
Then,all the precious Chinese golds and silver,national treasures,ancient artifacts,jades,rugs,porcelain artworks,paintings,antiques and books in the former Chinese capital were looted for transporting to Japan.
In the next 2-3 months,Japan committed the infamous "Nanjing massacre" or "Rape of Nanjing".
The Japanese looting amounted almost to plundering of the entire nanjing city.Nearly every building was entered by them,and the men took whatever they wanted.They often impressed Chinese to carry their loot....but,this is not enough for Japanese.The mass execution of war prisoners added to the horrors which Japanese soldier brought to Nanjing.
The brutalities included shooting,stabbing,cutting open the abdomen,excavating the heart,decapitation,drowning,punching the body and eye with an awl.Thousands of civilians were buried or burned alive,or used as targets for bayonet practice,shot in large groups and thrown in Yangtze River.More diabolical tortures were practiced,such as hanging people by their tongues on iron hooks or burying people to their waists and watching them torn apart by dogs."

An estimated 20,000-80,000 Chinese women were raped.Many soldiers went beyond rape to disembowel women,slice off their *beep*,nail them alive to walls.Fathers were forced to rape their daughters,and sons,their mothers ,as other family members watched.

More than 300,000 Chinese people were killed by Japanese soldiers in this event.

Now,today,all has gone.Perhaps if Japan repays evil with virture as what Germany did after war,many chinese will say"yes,we can forgive,but never forget." However,Japan has never given a official formal apology for their enormity.

Just as a Japanese people who knows the truth as he said:"A compensation without apology is un-ethical.An apology without compasention is mere hypocrisy."but,neither compensation ,nor apology.

So,how can we Chinese people forgive Japan,how aren't we angry when mentioning of Japan?But,I still say:"I never hate a Japanese people,because they are innocent,including the former soldier in WWII,they are also the victim of Japan Imperialism.

[admiral]

I think with passion everything will be solved.
Passion won't come from anger, so many Chinese should find another way.
_________________
If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I love inside you everyone else. I love the whole world because of you. I also love myself inside you"

[cucurrucucu]

[admiral]

Yes, that's the point you are talking about.
1st Japan should admit the truth.
_________________
If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I love inside you everyone else. I love the whole world because of you. I also love myself inside you"

[clonc]

Sad, Sad. Sad.

No one should forget attrocities. But no one should hate. No one should ever refuse to forgive (at least eventually).

I have friends who suffered in the Cultural Revolution, but they have now forgiven.

Should the Tibetans hate the Chinese nation? Should the Hans forgive the Manchus? Hatred should not last forever.

[admiral]

That's a good thought
Sadly it's only a thought and will only stay as a thought.
Ask why terrorism is in the world, ask why some countries are doing national terrorism (for example making wars for political aims, like China in Tibet, USA in Iraq, Western in Afirca)

[mingping]

The fact that Janpan invaded China some decades ago is true and the fact Janpan tortured China some decased ago is ture. Why should Chianese forget it? We can forgive but we can not forget! This world is not a Utopia. We are living in a world with so many different contries and with so many different races. In this way, we have to indentify each races. Janpan always looks updown on and disgraces China, and thinks it is the best. If you are in the shoe of China, do you like it or not?
In addition. because Janpan refuses to admit it was wrong in the World War two, as a sufferer contry, what will you do?
As a chinese person, I just do what I can do, that is, I refuse to buy Janpan-made products to delegate my angry to Janpan's attitude to China, though such action may stupid in some economist view.
I hope China will become more developed so that Janpan will have no chance to invade China again.[/b]

[feathergy]

hehe ~
As last floor said ' Japan will have no chance to invade China again."
well, I've never thought that Japan will invade China again !

Actually, I've got the fixed feeling about Japan.
We have to admit that it is a powerful country but it doesn't mean we have to rely on it , what we can do is try our best to learn from it---a quite small but powerful country.

The history let us know how disgraceful life we expeienced in the past
and then encourges us to develope our own country.

PEACE AND DEVELOPMENT

[xiaobai]

As a student,I am told to be friendly to the Japanese people ;but as a Chinese,I can not,especially when we see its attitude after war.We have sufferred so much ,but to them ,it seems that this never happened.how can we forgive.
_________________
JSJS

[Napoleon]