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sbkaty



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: bring to or bring for Reply with quote

Can we say I will bring a letter "for" you instead of I will bring a letter "to" you? thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes you can, and here they can both mean effectively the same action. For however indicates the recipient, while to indicates the direction of the motion.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will bring a book for Mary to John.

Is the above sentence acceptable?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes it is, Teo. The book is to be carried to John, and it is intended for Mary.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring Helen a present. = Bring a present __ Helen.
Which preposition should I use, for or to?
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Either one, since the gift is intended for Helen and is to be carried to her.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.englishforums.com/English/BringToFor/cjnmg/Post.htm
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have been asked before not to post simply links, Teo. If you have a concern, please post a further inquiry, or state your stance.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sorry but I am very much confused.
Bring the book to John for Mary.
Bring the book for Mary to John.
Do the above sentences have the same meaning?
By the way,
Read Helen the letter. = Read the letter __ Helen.
The answer is to, but is for also acceptable?
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is possible for both sentences to be read with the same meanings, but normal word order would have these sentences meaning:

Bring the book to John for Mary = Do Mary's task, which is bringing a book to John OR Bring the book to John so that John can give it to Mary.

Bring the book for Mary to John = Bring to John the book that is to be Mary's gift.


Read the letter to Helen = Read it so that Helen can hear it.
Read the letter for Helen = Read it so that Helen can hear it OR Read it instead of Helen.
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